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Discussions in English / Help determining meaning from a historical map

« skrivet: 2018-12-30, 06:11 »

Hi all: Is there anyone who could help determining what a map and map backup says about an ancestor we are researching? Is there someone who is familiar with these types of documents and is the link one that can be deciphered easily?

Carl Andersson is the ancestor in the family line we are trying to write family history on.
Please let me know if more information is needed, or if the writing in this document, even if you are fluent in Swedish, is not legible.

https://historiskakartor.lantmateriet.se/arken/s/show.html?showmap=true&archive=REG&nbOfImages=19&sd_base=lm05&sd_ktun=0000uy86&mdat=20170707142633035593

I believe that I found Carl's name referenced at least on pages 8, 11, 12, 13, and 14.

Ideally I would like to be able to pinpoint on the map where his propery was and what the related documents say about Carl and his property. Also, there is an Anders Andersson and a Lars Andersson referenced. Is there anything that says whether they are related at all?

Any help you can provide would be most appreciated!
Diane

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Discussions in English / SV: Searching for records on Smithburg (or Smithburgh or Smithberger possibly)

« skrivet: 2018-12-16, 21:25 »

THANK YOU both! Again, very helpful. Loved being able to hear the pronunciations.

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Discussions in English / SV: Searching for records on Smithburg (or Smithburgh or Smithberger possibly)

« skrivet: 2018-12-15, 17:15 »

That is helpful. Thanks! This is a nice map site.
May I ask how you made the connection between the two names Ustahlan and Djursdala?
As always, really appreciate the help!

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Discussions in English / SV: Searching for records on Smithburg (or Smithburgh or Smithberger possibly)

« skrivet: 2018-12-14, 06:27 »

Thank you Klas! That is very helpful!

May I ask one more location? Is there or was there a town with the name of Ustahlan? It is referenced on a later American legal document as the birthplace in Sweden of one of the children in the family that emigrated in 1848.

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Discussions in English / SV: Searching for records on Smithburg (or Smithburgh or Smithberger possibly)

« skrivet: 2018-12-13, 19:32 »

Hi all!

So preparation for the holidays has slowed my progress a bit, but I do have a question!

I came across Inventory of Estates documents for Peter Carlsson's father and mother and have been working on the translation (good practice for me but not an easy task!  At some point I may put what I have been able to decipher out here and request someone to review my work!

But my question is where is Falla in Horn Parish? I found a Falla much farther north, but nothing in Horn.  We are trying to put together a map with the relevant locations for this family.

Many thanks for all the help that I have received so far! Would love to reciprocate if I could!

(Also, Arne, if you read this I am going to wait until after the first of the year and then will reach out again to the contact email address that you provided.)

And early Merry Christmas to you all!

Diane

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Discussions in English / SV: Searching for records on Smithburg (or Smithburgh or Smithberger possibly)

« skrivet: 2018-11-26, 18:46 »

Hi Kristina!
Thanks for the response. I agree on the name change speculation.

As far as the move in preparation for emigration: I was referring to Arne's post of the church record: "and returned to Djursdala early 1848". It seemed odd to me that they would move right before they were going to emigrate. However I may just be over-thinking it!

Arne: I have been able to find the records that you linked for me but I will confess only by looking through the whole book! I did find confirmation class records also. I will have to read up on search hints before proceeding. Thanks! And if I haven't received an email in a few weeks I will reach out to you if that is okay.

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Discussions in English / SV: Searching for records on Smithburg (or Smithburgh or Smithberger possibly)

« skrivet: 2018-11-24, 17:33 »

I just wanted to say thank you again for the documents with explanations of the information contained that you all provided. And all the answers and explanations to what must seem to you to be very simple questions. You allowed us to have a breakthrough in this family line!

Although I had searched with very broad limits before I had never been able to find the ship manifest for Peter and his family, but I was able to find it this week. They came on the Brig Minona which left from Göteburg (or  Götenburg or Gothenburg) and arrived in Boston, Massachusetts July 13, 1848. I have not had much luck with searches in the Sweden collection of Ancestry or Family Search sadly. I don't know if the documents or indexed information does not exist (as you said, the records at Horn had burned), or if my search criteria has not worked.

Arne: I did email the person that you gave me the email for who has done research on this line. I am interested in finding out a bit of information about the family prior to their emigration. Do you think he is my best line of inquiry to learn more? I am not sure what might be out there! Any guidance you can give me would be most appreciated!

Best regards,

Diane

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Discussions in English / SV: Searching for records on Smithburg (or Smithburgh or Smithberger possibly)

« skrivet: 2018-11-19, 15:47 »

It is our understanding that Peter was a coppersmith and a farmer. Might his coppersmith occupation explain the name change from Carlsson to Smithburg? I am assuming that the move back to Djursdala would be in preparation for the emigration. This is pure gold to our genealogy research! Thank you so much.
As an aside, Peter was hauling lumber to repair their new home two weeks after purchasing a farm in Iowa with the oldest son (then called Charles). They were crossing Brush Creek after a rainstorm and the wagon was swept away and Peter drowned leaving Anna and her children. She remarried a couple years later to a Phillip Anderson who was a member of the New Sweden community there.

Do you think there is more information available about them?

Again, thank you so much.

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Discussions in English / SV: Searching for records on Smithburg (or Smithburgh or Smithberger possibly)

« skrivet: 2018-11-19, 14:47 »

This is wonderful. Thank you so much. I will digest this a bit.

Would it be reasonable to assume that Djursdala was their parish?
 

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Discussions in English / SV: Searching for records on Smithburg (or Smithburgh or Smithberger possibly)

« skrivet: 2018-11-19, 01:46 »

Also, is this Horn in Östergötland or in Kalmar please?

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Discussions in English / SV: Searching for records on Smithburg (or Smithburgh or Smithberger possibly)

« skrivet: 2018-11-19, 01:43 »

Okay, that makes more sense. I am definitely on a learning curve for different types of documents! Household records are like a census, correct?

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Discussions in English / SV: Searching for records on Smithburg (or Smithburgh or Smithberger possibly)

« skrivet: 2018-11-19, 01:21 »

Thank you for the clarification, I assumed that Arne was referring to a birth record from the year 1805, but the attached does show 1801, correct?
 I will take a close look.
Thanks again!

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Discussions in English / SV: Searching for records on Smithburg (or Smithburgh or Smithberger possibly)

« skrivet: 2018-11-19, 00:09 »

Hi Arne:
Thank you for the reply. I assume that you mean records before 1851, not 1581 in Horn?
I will follow up with the email address that you provided to see if it is the same family, although would it be common in that era for a man to marry a woman five years his senior?

Thanks for the suggestions! I very much appreciate any and all responses!

Diane

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Discussions in English / Searching for records on Smithburg (or Smithburgh or Smithberger possibly)

« skrivet: 2018-11-18, 16:14 »

Hello!

We are looking for information on family before they immigrated to the United States in 1848. What we think we know:

First, regarding the name, we assume that Smithburg has been Americanized. The closest name we can find coming into the country in 1848 was "Peter Smithberger", and we have found a couple of early references to the last name "Smithburgh". But the naming conventions in Sweden during that time don't fit that name very well!

Peter Smithburg may have read letters printed in newspapers about America from Peter Cassel who had immigrated in 1845 and that may have sparked his interest. He left Sweden with his wife and six children sometime around July 1848. He did join the same New Sweden settlement that Peter Cassel started in Iowa.

We have some dates and places that they may have come from but they are not sourced so we don't know if they are correct or not:

Peter Smithburg born 31 Aug 1801 Falla, Horn, Sweden

wife Anna Catharine born 14 May 1800 Falla, Horn, Sweden

son Charles born 1831, daughter Inga born 12 Jan 1835 Horn County, daughter Sophia Helena born Apr 1838, son Andrew David born 1839 Ustahlan, son Gustav Adolphus born 05 Aug 1842, daughter Alberta born 24 Apr 1846.

We are hoping to find church records for this family initially. Also anything else that might be available that would let us learn about them. We use Ancestry.com, Family Search.com and other sites but have not been able to find any records for them.

Can anyone help or suggest the best way to find records for them before emmigration? I would be happy to reciprocate if I can!

Regards,
Tom and Diane Smithburg