Bladin, Jonas b1903 Gavleborgs lan. Emigr fr Stockholm 1928

[John Hage]

Can someone help me find family of origin information for Jonas Bladin born 11 January 1903, please?  I know when he was born and that he lived along the east coast of Sweden on the Gulf of Bothnia.  I know he departed from Stockholm to the USA on 17 September 1928, originating from from Gävleborg Län and that he listed his occupation as Jordbruksarb, which I take to be farm laborer.

[Judy Olson Baouab]

I can't tell you anything new except that he was Jonas Hugo Bladin, but this is the information from the Emihamn database. Emihamn was made from registrations with Swedish port police before leaving Sweden.(Not all Swedes left through a Swedish port.)
 
First name: JONAS HUGO
Last name: BLADIN
Age: 25     Gender: M
Parish:      County: X = Gävleborg
Title/Note: JORDBRUKSARB(etare) = farm worker
Port: STOCKHOLM
Date: 1928 09 17
Destination: NEW YORK NY
Fellows: NEJ
Source: ST 1928:1000
 
The ship's arrival manifest should provide his place of birth and a relative in Sweden. That will be available on microfilm that you can order from any Family History Center.
 
His naturalization records will be very detailed and you can obtain those from the NARA (National Archives and Records Administration) archive in the area where he naturalized.
 
This is the email for the archive covering Gävleborg and some other counties in that area.
 
landsarkivet@landsarkivet-harnosand.ra.se
 
His application for a Social Security number should provide the names of his parents (including his mother's maiden name), his place of birth, his full name, etc.
 
Judy

[Kerstin Thölix]

Hello John!
 
There ia a Jonas Hugo Bladin Arraving to New York on the 30 of September 1928. He is coming with the ship Hellig Olav from Oslo, Norway. He´s last permanent residence was Rogsta and that is also the place where he is born.His father is Elias Bladin Rogsta Sweden. John Hugo is going to Two Harbors in Minnesota to uncle Andrew Anderson,  
 
And this is from the cencus of 1900
Name Elias Bladin
Homeparish Rogsta
Residence Oppby
County Gävleborgs
Year of birth 1863
Occupation Torpare
Marital status Married (M)
Gender Man
Family status code Father/Husband (F)
Page 7
Row 10
Fam nr 1
Elias Bladin b 1863 in Rogsta, torpare
Maria kristina Andersdotter b 1863 in Nianfors Gävleborgs county
Katrina b 1890 in Rogsta
Margreta b 1892 in Rogsta
Anna b 1895 in Rogsta
Helena Kristina b 1897 in Rogsta  
Sigrid b 1900 in Rogsta  
 
In the cencus of 1890 they are also living in Oppby
Elias Bladin b 1863 in Rogsta Gefle county Torpare
Maria kristina Andersdotter b 1863 in Nianfors Gefle county  
Katrina b 1890 in Rogsta  
 
And this is how it looks like for Elias Bladin in the cencus of 1880. He is still living in Oppby
Jon Jonsson Bladin b 1827 in Rogsta Gävleborg county Husman
Chatrina Kristina Olsdotter b 1831 in Rogsta
Helena Kathrina b 1860 in Rogsta
Elias b 1863 in Rogsta
Lars b 1868 in Rogsta
Olof b 1858 in Rogsta
 
MVH Kerstin
 
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[Kerstin Thölix]

And Maria Kristina is living in Håcksta Rogsta homeparish
Anders Olof Olsson b 1827 in Nianfors Gävleborgs county Landbonde
Margta Sjöblom b 1821 in Enånger Gävleborg county
Anna Kajsa b 1854 in Njutånger Gävleborg county
Maria Kristina b 1863 in Nianfors  
Anders Johan b 1869 in Nianfors
 
MVH Kerstin

[Kerstin Thölix]

Hello John!
 
I have tried to contact you on your email address but I coudn´t send the mail, so please contact me on my email.
 
MVH Kerstin

[John Hage]

Judy and Kerstin,
 
Thank you so much for your information.  I had tried the 1890 census looking for Bladin, but only found one Bladin, located in Umeå Lands, Västerbottens.  It did not look like the family I was looking for, though.
 
Jonas Hugo Bladin settled in Two Harbors, Minnesota, where he married Nancy H. Hage.  Jonas was employed as a crane operator for the Duluth and Mesabi Railroad.  He passed away 22 October, 1977.

[Kerstin Thölix]

Sorry John, but I still cant send the file to you, so i write the information here instead. You see, Jon Jonsson Bladin was send to prison for lifetime because he had murded someone in an arson
Name Jon Jonsson Bladin, Husman
Date of birth 1827-11-29
Place of Birth Rogsta  
Place of birth , county Gävleborgs län
Homeparish Rogsta gävleborgs län
Deportation city Rogsta Gävleborgs län
Main register number (Nr Stamrullan )6644
Portrait register number 2474
Prison Långholmen centralfängelse
Judge athority Kungl.Svea H.r
Lenght of punishment Livstid
Punishment started 1888-11-01
Set free 1903-12-15
Punishment Mordbrand därav annan ljutit döden
Means when set free 17,74
Savingbook 884,92 N:o 5596
Haircolour Gråsprängt  
Beard gråsprängt  
Eyes Blå små  
Nose Rak
Mouth bred  
Build stark  
other diffrential distinguishing features: ett ärr på högra höften  
Show Source show source
 
The information is from SVAR Frigivna straffarbetsfångar.  
 
hope that someone that is better on computers than I am can send the file to you, because there is a photo of Jon too.
 
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[John Hage]

Hello,
I'm sorry, I havent been very active lately.  Is it possible for someone to copy and paste the photo of Jon Jonsson Bladin that Kirsten is referring to in the previous posting?
Thanks,
John H.

[Chris Bingefors]

This is Jon Jonsson Bladin in 1903 when he was released:
 

[John Hage]

Thank you Chris,
Have the records of the court been preserved?  It would be interesting to read about what transpired during the trial.
John H.

[Chris Bingefors]

His sentence was confirmed by Svea Hovrätt (Superior Court) on 19 Oct 1888. There would have been a trial before that in the local court, which is referred to in the Superior Court. The minutes are preserved and will be available as copies for a fee from Riksarkivet (National Archives). The local court will be in the appropriate LAndsarkiv, in this case probably Härnösand. On page 00043699_00272   in the Svar data base you can find his prison record, with a personal history.

[John Hage]

Hello Chris,
Is the Svar database available on-line or is it through Genline?  What other online databases are useful for historical research?
Thanks,
John H.

[Chris Bingefors]

Svar is on-line at www.svar.ra.se , they charge a fee, but you can buy short-term use. Depending on the area you research there is a new data base with digital photos of documents, but it mainly covers south Sweden at the moment. www.arkivdigital.se.

[Chris Bingefors]

The court where he had the main trial is Forsa Häradsrätt, the minutes will be in Härnösand Archives (not filmed): landsarkivet@landsarkivet-harnosand.ra.se

[John Hage]

Hello,
When I compare the Household Examination records for Jon Jonsson in Oppby, Rogsta, Gälveborg, from 1846-1857 and 1857-1863, I find the surname Bladin that was not in the earlier book has appeared in the later book. Please refer to GID 1889.1.26600 and GID 1889.2.543. I cannot make out the added notations in the later book.  Can someone help with the question, Is Bladin a soldier name, farm name, or occupation name?, please?
Thank you,
John H.

[John Hage]

Hello,
I have found the household records using Genline, but they do not have information for births after 1897.  I know that Jonas Hugo was born in 1903.  A cousin tells me he had a sister and brother that were born between 1897 and 1903, but I cannot find their information online.  Are their records in Sweden that might help with this?
Thank You,
John H.

[Arne Granquist]

Hej
SCB yearly  excerpts of Birth, Marriage and Dead Records  published at SVAR
1895 - 1910
 
10 Jan 1895   Anna
13 Nov 1897   Helena Kristina
30 Aug 1900   Sigrid
11 jan 1903   Jonas Hugo
 9 Apr 1906   Elida Maria
 
 
Parents :
Bladin, Elias
Andersdotter, Maria Kristina
living at Oppby  Rogsta parish
 
 
Arne

[Åke Bjurström]

Hello John
 
Look at Genline, Gävleborg, Rogsta.
SCB 1898-1920 Födda. 1903-01-11, GID 1889.36.3600
 
Åke

[John Hage]

Åke and Arne!
Thank you so much.  I do not yet have a subscription to SVAR, but it appears to be the best supplement to help with Genline. I will look also for the Genline records.
Thanks again!
John H.

[John Hage]

Hello,
Could someone help by translating the notes for Jon Jonsson Bladin on GID 1889.7.6100, Page #49, please?  I assume they talk about the fire he started, but I can't make out the old style Swedish words.  Also, what are the notes for his children on the same page?  Did the two oldest have banns against them, but the youngest not?
Thank you,
John H.

[Olle Andersson]

John!
The SVAR record is much better in quality and says:
1) Swedish
Af Forsa Tingslags Häradsrätt dömd till straffarbete under sin återstående lifstid och för alltid förlustig medborgerligt förtroende för mordbrand. Sitter på Långholmen.
2) By Forsa court sentenced to hard labour for the rest of his life and for ever loss of citizen privilegies due to arson. Serving at Långholmen (prison in Stockholm).
 
 
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[John Hage]

Hej Olle!
Thank you for the translation!  Did the children lose citizen priviledges also?  Or did they hire themselves out because there was not enough income to support them?
Thanks!
John H.

[Stefan Dake]

Hello John!
 
The notes for the children on lines 3, 4, 6 and 7 refer to the marriages register, EI:1, i.e. #8/1884, #1/1888, #1/1881 and #9/1886 respectively.
The figures for Lars on line 5 is his military registration number.
There is an incomplete number for Elias on line 9. It should probably be: 94-156-1884. 94 is just a serial number (for the actual year), 156 is the registration area to which Rogsta belonged and 1884 is the year he turned 21.
 
Regards
Stefan
 
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[John Hage]

Steffan!
Thank you!  Was 21 the mandatory age for military training?  I am looking also for possible military training for my grandfather, Nils Hage, in Hungalsvik, Ny Parish, Värmland.  He is a son of Olof Jansson shown on GID 515.4.18800 (1873-1880) and would have turned 21 in October 1873.
Regards,
John H.

[Stefan Dake]

Hello John!
 
Sorry, I made a mistake! The mandatory military training began 1886. Before that you could enlist within the so called allotment system. Here soldiers were recruited at the age of 20-25 years. They could then serve for the rest of their lives. After 1886 the mandatory age varied like this:
1886-1914 21 years
1914-1950 20 years
1950-1954 19 years
1954-     18 years
 
Interesting about your grandfather! If he was a allotment soldier in the 1870s and living in Ny he must have served in Jösse company of Värmlands regiment. My grandfathers father was a sergeant major in that company by that time.
He also lived in Ny parish.
 
Regards,
Stefan

[John Hage]

Hello Stefan!
I don't know if my grandfather had military training.  There was a note from Chris Bingefors once that indicated a possibility of it.  But I haven't found anything to support it.  It's not critical, though, just a matter of curiosity.  Speaking of curiosity, what was the mandatory schooling in the 1850-1880 time period?  I've heard it was four years, but I don't know what that is equivalent to in today's world.  If a person passed an exam later on, would that have been similar to a high school graduation?  Just curious.
Thanks,
John H.

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