Stenman

[Ann Little]

Ur Kent Anderssons bok  Dalstorps pastorat, En resa genom tiden, från ett inlägg av Börje Hillfelt en 9/11 2000 under Finnekumla;
 
Nr.10= Ericus Stenman (1709-1716) Född 1685 på Finnekumla Stom, son till befallningsman Bryngel Månsson Stenman död 1708 och Birgitta Mårtensson Krum.
Erik studerade vid Uppsala Universitet 1701, blev kommunister i Gällstad 105-1708, kommunister i Dalstorp 1709-1716, kommunister i Finnekumla 1716-1741.  
Under sin Dalstorp tid bodde Stenman på Ekered Storgården, vilken hans fader hade skatterätten av.  
Kyrkoherden i Gällstad yttrade om Stenman; Han pryder sin heliga lära med ett kristeligt och gudeligt leverne.
 
Gift 1707 med Christina Andersdotter Gröndell f.1688 i Gryttered Storegård, Hulared, Västergötland död 13/12 1764 på Finnekumla Stom. Dotter till befallningsman Anders Gunnarsson Gröndell( f. ca. 1658 i Gryttered, Hulared död 1731) och Elisabeth (Pettersdotter) Ekman (dotter till inspektören och rusthållaren Petter (Pehr) Håkansson Ekman f. 1625 i Ekered Storegården i Dalstorp).
 
Barn: Christina f.1708 d.13/5 1753, gift 8/10 1727 med kyrkoherden i Tvärred, Isac Fällskog död 17/7 1757.
      Maria Elisabeth f.7/11 1710 d.11/1 1794 på Torpa i Länghems socken, gift 24/10 1734 med inspektören Nils Forsman, död 3/2 1772 på Stomsberg i Finnekumla.
      Ebba Charlotta, gift 28/10 1740 med kommunistern i Gällstad, Petrus Backe död 29/9 1765.
      Hans Erik
      Anna Maja, gift med Jacob Jönsson i Bruntorp
      Mårten död 1743 ägde Pajered i Mårdklevs sn.
 
 
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Ann Little

[Monica Jönsson (Monica)]

Hej,
 
jag söker upplysningar om stenhuggaren Carl Fredrik Stenman, som enl. folkräkningen 1890 föddes i Kvistbro (T) 1841. Mina tidigaste data om honom är från Askum (O), där han fanns på Bohus-Malmön, gift med Johanna Christina Kristiansdotter. Deras barn: Fredrika f 1871, Gustaf Adolf 1872, Kristian Tegner 1875, Otto Tegner 1878, Johan Theodor 1880 och Axel Kristian 1882, samtliga födda i Askum.
 
Mvh,
Monica

[Ulla Torin]

Hej!
Jag har en anfader Niclas (ibl. Nils) Stenman, som är född 1731.?
Han inflyttade till Onsala Hallands län och hade där titel Cofferdie Captain.
När han vigde sig där 1762-12-16 står det kyrkböckerna född i Stockholms stad.
 
Jag har faktiskt letat igenom alla församlingar i Sthlm under födda 1731, men det var ett tidsödande arbete och så lätt att jag missat något.
 
Är det helt hopplöst att hitta honom i Sthlm?
Finns det någon, som kan tipsa mig om, var och hur jag skall söka.
Han bör ju haft en marin utbildning, eftersom han flyttar till västkusten och blir kapten på egen skuta.
Tacksam för alla tips!
Ulla

[Staffan Bengtsson]

Ulla
 
Det fanns en järnbärare Peter Stenman som dog 1743 10/3 i Stockholm. Han efterlämnade änkan Rebecka Persdotter samt tre barn;
1/ Margareta Brita, 16 år
2/ Anna Maria, 14 år
3/ Niklas, 12 år
Det behöver ju inte vara den Niklas som flyttar till Halland, men det kan vara ett uppslag att gå vidare med. Källa är bouppteckningsregistret för Stockholms RR och magistrat. Numret på bouppteckningen är Ou.1726-56:30

[Ulla Torin]

Tack snälla Staffan!
Det verkar ju stämma i tiden, med den Niklas jag söker.
Har Du en aning om i vilken församling i Sthlm denne Peter Stenman bodde när han dog?
 
Det kan kanske ge mig en öppning i mitt sökande.
Hälsn.
Ulla

[Staffan Bengtsson]

Hej Ulla
 
Tyvärr vet jag inte i vilken församling han dog. En Margareta Brita Stenman, som skulle kunna vara dottern ovan, gifte sig i Maria fs 1754 27/10 och uppgavs då vara född i församlingen.

[Ulla Torin]

Tack snälla Staffan!
 
Jag har nu något att söka vidare på.
Skulle jag träffa rätt, så är jag lyrisk, om inte, så är Du en sann släktforskarvän!
 
Kram
Ulla

[Ulla Torin]

Staffan eller någon annan.
 
Min Niklas Stenman f. 1731-??-?? hittar jag inte i Maria fs.
Ej heller den vigda Margareta Brita Stenman 1754-10-24 i Genline.
 
Bouppteckningen Du nämnde Staffan, kan man se den på nätet eller måste man skriftligt begära ut den från Sthlm RR?
 
Min Niklas Stenman född i Sthlm's stad förblir en gåta.
 
Finns det någon annan väg jag kan gå?
Jag har på CD-skivor: Gamla stan, Söder, Klara, och Kungsholmen. Vet ju ej var i Sthlm Maria fs. ligger om jag skulle söka i skivorna?

[Harriet Boquist]

Ulla
 
Maria förs/Maria Magdalena förs ligger på Söder, men tyvärr börjar inte Söder-skivan förrän c:a 1878.
 
Mvh
Harriet

[Constantinus Lindfors]

Ulla!
 
Petter Nilsson Stenman och Rebecka Persdotter vigs i Maria fs 1721 5/10 (EI:1, sida 246).  
 
I samma församling döps deras barn:
Margareta Brita, 1724 22/1 (CIA:5, sida 302). Hennes vigsel återfinns i EI:2, sida 392.
Anna Maria, 1727 30/9 CIA:5, sida 421).
Niklas, 1729 7/11 (CIA:5, sida 493).
 
Mvh / Constantinus

[Ulla Torin]

Tack Harriet för uppgiften om Söder-skivan!
 
Tack Constantinus, för uppgifterna från Maria fs.
I husförhör och i vigselbok i Onsala (N) står att Niklas Stenman skulle vara född 1731, men husförhörsuppgifterna är ju inte alltid att lita på.
Detta kan ju vara min Niklas Stenman.
 
Jag ska jobba vidare på den linjen och se vad jag kommer fram till.
 
Mvh Ulla

[Danielle Jonsson-Lopez]

Hello!
 
   I'm not quite sure if I'm posting in the right spot, but I'll try my best...
 
I am looking for my great grandmother's ancestry. She came to the U.S. in the 1920's, from Nederkalix. Her name was Ester Eugenia Stenman, b. feb 25 1901 in Storön, Nederkalix to Nils Olaf Stenman (b. Oct 23 1894) and Anna Helena Johansson (b Dec 21 1869) Nils and Anna married on Nov 10, 1888. Based on an 1890 Census, I believe Nils's mother was Brita Greta Stenman. I do not know her maiden name. I also have most of Nils & Anna's other children and their birthdates.  
 
    I am having trouble finding anything else down that family line. I'm a little stuck. Any information would be helpful.
 
            Thank You!  
             Dani

[Elisabeth Thorsell]

Here is the family in the Swedish Census for 1900:
 
All were born in Nederkalix. In 1900 the family lived at Storön, and Nils Olof is listed as a workman.
 
Stenman, Nils Olof   1861   Father
Johansdotter, Anna Helena   1869   Mother
(Barn), Nils Albert   1890   Child
(Barn), Nancy Maria   1894   Child
(Barn), Oskar Emanuel   1897   Child
(Barn), Hulda Vilhelmina   1899   Child

[Eva Dahlberg]

Hej Dani! It might be easier for you to get help under the Nederkalix discussion, but I'll help out quickly.
 
 
Nils Olof (not Olaf) Stenman (born 22 November 1861 in Nederkalix parish) is son of Nils Olof Stenman (born 5 October 1821 in Nederkalix, died 11 March 1888) and Brita Greta Johansdotter (born 30 December 1840 in Nederkalix).
Some of his siblings also emigrated.
 
All dates from the household examination rolls / clerical surveys (i.e. the husförhörslängd), not verified in birth and death records.
 
Anna Helena Johansson was born 21 December 1869 in Nederkalix, her parents are Olof Johansson (b 19 September 1843 in Nederkalix) - married on 1 January 1869 to Maria Charlotta Rönnberg (b. 29 April 1841 in Nederkalix).
 
Nederkalix AI:10e (1878-1890) page (sid) 1019 - and Anna Helena's family on page 1014 in the same book.
Nederkalix AI:11e (1891-1899) page (sid) 102 and 95
 
I verified Anna Helena's birth in the birth book (she doesn't use a patronymic Olofsdotter - but her father's patronymic is made stable at this time to Johansson). However the priest mangled  her birth record by re-naming her parents a bit - but the reference to the husförhörslängd is correct and it's possible to follow her and her parents.
 
Nederkalix CI:7 (1861-1877) page 164 - child number 269
Nederkalix AI:9d (1869-1878) page 677
 
As a return favour - as I research a lot in Nederkalix   - where did Esther Eugenia end up in the US?
 
regards,
Eva
 
PS. I noted your remarks in your profil. Definitely something to take in the Nederkalix discussion, especially as she married a Nederkalix guy and they remained in contact with Sweden and relatives (I put a link above) - there are many natives or local resources in the discussion there (I am only a research and summer native of Kalix myself).
 
But be sure to mention the information from this discussion also, if you post under Nederkalix.
 
Additional info on the deaths of Esther Eugenia's parents (from dvd Swedish Death Index 1901-2009):
 
18691221-890
Stenman f. Johansson, Anna Helena
Storön 4:29
Dead 1/6/1948 (1 June)
Registered in Nederkalix (Norrbottens län, Norrbotten).
 
Born 12/21/1869 in Nederkalix (Norrbottens län, Norrbotten).
 
Widow (8/8/1938).
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(Meddelandet ändrat av edah 2012-01-23 13:08)
 
(Meddelandet ändrat av edah 2012-01-23 20:32)

[Danielle Jonsson-Lopez]

Eva! Thank You!  You have made my day!
 
   How much would you like to know on Esther? Just where she ended up? I have digital documents of her immigration and also other family member with addresses on where there destination was, and where they ended up indefinatly. I also have pictures of my great grandparents building their first house in America, and them with their Swedish friends (also from the Nederkalix area, some at least.) If you want any of that I can email it to you, no problem.
 
  If you just wanted basic details, Esther arrived in New York on Jan 17 1924 on the SS Gothenburg. She was traveling with Judith Margret Ostrom, who was US born, and was traveling back to America. in the ship manifests lists It lists her closest relative in Sweden as her Uncle Karl Stenman. I do not know Nils's siblings, so I am wondering of Karl is a brother of Nils, and Judith and Esther were cousins...
   Judith lists her destination on arrival as her cousin Carl ronqvist (I believe from Nederkalix area also)
   Esther lists her destination on arrival as her sister, Helena Stenman. Both Carl and Helena are living at the same address at this time: 4042 Mansfield Ave. Chicago, IL.  
    I'm getting the idea that the family all kind of stayed together or in the Chicago area. Although, when I knew my great grandmother Esther, she did not speak to any family members. Not even her sister Helena, so I have no idea what happened. Maybe the years just drifted everyone apart. I don't know.
    Her sister Helen married Torkil Svenonius, who I think was from the Nederkalix area, and my grt grandma Esther married Helge Sigurd Jonsson, who was also born In the Nederkalix are. (Töre). My granfather was born in 1927, so Esther and Helge were married sometime between he 1924 immigration, and 1927.
 
     Esther remained in the Chicago area most of her life. (Villa Park, IL & Park Ridge, IL) They only had one child, my grandpa, Arthur Helge Jonsson. He traveled back to Sweden with them when they would go. He spoke only Swedish until he started school, and then had no idea how to speak English once he went. A boy in his neighborhood who was a classmate took time to teach him English, and they remained life long friends.  
 
    Helge passed away in the 60's, and Esther remarried Axel Fornell, another Swede. (My great grandmother preferred to surround herself with only other Swedes, which may have been why she did not care for my grandmother, who was German. A weird quirk I guess) Then my grandfather, her son, Arthur died of a brain tumor in his 40's. Once Axel passed away, My grandma, Arthur's widow,  brought Esther up to Racine, Wi, where she and my grandfather Arthur had moved in the 60's. Esther had no family left, so my Grandma took care of her in Wisconsin until her death in 1989. She died in Racine, Wi and we buried her back near her home in Illinois at Ridgewood Cemetery in Des Plaines, IL, where Helge was also buried.
 
   (side note: Helge Jonsson, her husband, was also from Nederkalix. Son of gustav Jonsson. He immigrated in I think 1923. We was an engineer, and became an inventor. He worked for a scientific company in Chicago and invented and built engraving machines, which he has a number of American patents on. One patent in particular interests me. He made it in the 40's. It was an engraving machine that would engrave on curved surfaces, in  particular, bomb casings. He designed it for his company, Gaertner Scientific corporation. We all know the big bombs from WWII.... I am curious to see where his invention had been used, and on what bombs.)
 
 So that's the gist of Esther's life after Sweden.  
 
   Although I do not know if you even need anything for Jonsson/Stenman of Nederkalix lines...If you'd like any other information, please let me know, I'd be happy to share whatever I have with you.  Pictures, patents, dates, names, places... I'd be glad to share. (Helge was also a photographer, so we have a lot of pictures.)
 
 It seems the surnames Ostrom and Ronnqvist from the Nederkalix area are related by marriages somehow to Esther and Helge. I have yet to figure out the links. I've just begun to sort them out, and basically only have immigration papers linking them.

[Eva Dahlberg]

Hej Dani! Thanks! Sufficiently for the time being  
 
Helge Sigurd Jonsson was born in Töre, Nederkalix parish on 13 December 1897 (according to moving out records for emigrants from Töre parish in 1923).  
 
Töre and a few other villages were broken out of Nederkalix parish to form Töre parish in 1909.
 
According to his birth record and the husförhörslängd, his parents were Gustaf Jonsson (Gustaf and Gustav are the same name and there were no spelling rules for the parish priests) born 28 January 1858 in Markaryd parish in the province Småland (he was a shop keeper) and his wife Emma Ingeborg born in Haparanda parish on 19 March 1866. They were married on 7 February 1886. Her family names is probably Säther (written Saether).
Helge had several siblings.
 
Sources
Nederkalix birth book C:9 1895-1899, 1897 child number 407 (which I have on microfiche)  
 
husförhörslängd:  
Nederkalix AI:10f (1879-1890) sid 1237
Nederkalix AI:11f (1891-1899) sid 118
 
 
I'll post a link under Nederkalix to this discussion for those interested in Stenman's.  
 
regards,
Eva

[Danielle Jonsson-Lopez]

Thanks Eva, for the bit on Emma's last name. Someone in a forum on ancestry gave me that info but used Saether. It's good to know it's Säther.  
 
   Another person on that forum explained Gustaf was from Markaryd parish, and that actually there are a lot of Jonsson's still living there. So I think I'll go off in search of the Markaryd forum too. Maybe there's some Jonssons Hanging around.
   My dad is Jon Nels Jonsson... so it's obvious at least his middle name was named for his father's grandfather. It wouldn't be a far stretch to find the Jon his first name came from on the Jonsson side.  
 
   I'm still getting the hang of searching through the forums that are in Swedish...Thank the good Lord for Google Translator!

[Margaretha Johansson]

Danielle - there is also a local forum www.kalixforskarna.se where you might get more information - or even find relatives. It is unfortunately in Swedish but as you said you can use Google Translator.

[Danielle Jonsson-Lopez]

Thank you, Margaretha, I'll stop in over there.

[Claës Linder]

Hej!
 
Söker uppgifter om Bryngel Månsson Steenman som enligt inlägg ovan avled 1708 i Finnekumla, Kinds härad. Han skulle varit befallningsman och jag undrar om det är bekant på vilken egendom han var anställd. Orsaken till mitt intresse är att Per Olofsson Giebo, rustmästare, arrenderade Smedsgården i Länghem, Kinds härad och i samband med uppsägandet av arrendet 1691 företräddes ägaren av befallningsmanenn Bryngel Månsson Steenman. Men vem ägde Smedsgården i Länghem vid denna tid?
 
Mvh
 
Claës Linder