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Författare Ämne: Carl Johan Carlsson/Karl Johan Karlsson Lungsund and Nyed  (läst 348 gånger)

2006-03-30, 18:14
läst 348 gånger

Patricia Carlson Killoran

I am looking for the family of Karl Johan Karlsson b. 3 Jun 1861 in Lungsund, and Anna Charlotta Fredriksdotter b. 28 Feb 1864 in Vintrosa ,between 1876 and 1886.  I have found the family in Stora Kil in 1886-1890 526.21.61600 pg 245.  And I have Carl, as a single man in 1876-1880 in Galtskär Al:23 pg 250 504.5.23800. I found their marriage record and birth of their son Carl Gustaf in 100017.57.4600 Vol.963 but am missing them for 10 years.  Can anyone help?  Pat

2006-03-31, 18:13
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Utloggad Olle Andersson

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Pat!
 
I am not quite sure what you are looking for.
Just a few findings and Anna's parents:
 
From records I found out that the first child
Anna Josefina was born in Nyed, 1884 out of wedlock.
100017.47.17400  [Värmland]  _scb Värmland,  .812, Födde,Vigsel,Död, 1884-1884, 0-0,  Sida 46 av 550    
 
Karl and Anna married june 14 1885
 
Next child Maria Lovisa born july 28 1885:
100017.49.28700  [Värmland]  _scb Värmland,  .842, Födde,Vigsel,Död, 1885-1885, 0-0,  Sida 51 av 423
This birth record states that father was railway worker and registred in Väse parish. Maria Lovisa had an emergency baptism (nöddop).
 
I found Alma Charlotta with parents in Lindfors, Nyed (S)
516.11.16200  [Närke och Värmland; Värmland]  Nyed,  AI.26, Husförhör, 1881-1885, 611-0,  Sida 162 av 385.
 
Regards
 
Olle

2006-03-31, 21:39
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Hi Pat,  
One problem is that the later flyttningslängder (moving records) and to some extent marriage, birth and death records after 1860 are not available through Genline (although the SCB copies are). This makes it hard to follow people.  
 
If you look at the husförhör from  St. Kil (1886 - 90), you can see there that the Karl Johan Karlsson came from Nyed parish 1890 26/11.  
 
You also have Karl Johans moving from Galtskär, Lungsund parish to Nyed parish in 1879 31/10.  
 
Without the flyttningslängder you can see places if you look for the marriage in 1885 and the childrens births via the SCB.  
 
With a quick look round this is a summary:  
Until we look in inflyttningslängd for Nyed we do not have where in Nyed Carl Johan lived 1879 - 1881.  
 
1881 he moves to Väse:  
Väse AI:36 (3) 1881 - 1885, p, 824
drg / Arb (worker) Karl Johan Karlsson, Olof Jonsson in Wiberg eller Nyborg, Väse 1881 7/11 - 1885 26/10. A note tells about his marriage, and that he moves to Brattfors parish.  
Note that Karl Johan?s brother Anders Karlsson comes here from Lungsund 1882 10/11, back to Lungsund 1883 22/10.  
 
Karl Johan?s coming wife is with her parents in Lindfors village, Nyed parish; Nyed AI:26, p. 611 /516.11.16200/, she moves to Brattfors in 1885.  
 
They move from Brattfors parish to Nyed in 1887:  
See AI:28, 1886 - 90, p. 539 /516.28.25900/,  
Jernv. arb (railway worker) Karl Johan Karlsson etc., in Fageråshöjden, Nyed. They move in 1889.
(The birth-notice you cite from 1888 leads to the address as Fageråshöjden).  
 
Jernv. arb. Carl Johan Carlsson in Spätterud, Nyed from 1889, moves to Kil in 1890.  
AI:28, p. 820 /516.28.49800/
 
From 1890 Kolare (char-coal maker) Karl Joh. Karlsson in Hastersby, Stora Kil. The 4th child, daughter  Signe is born here 1891 29/3.  
 
Another thing, Karl Johan?s sister moved to Frykerud in 1886. Frykerud is a neighbour parish of Stora Kil.  
 
Hastersby is overloking the long lake Fryken.
 
Bengt
 
P.S. I will reply to your last email later.

2006-03-31, 21:57
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Patricia Carlson Killoran

Olle and Bengt, thank you.  This helps a lot.  I just wanted to follow them for those missing years and was having trouble finding them on genline.  Bengt, you explained the problem for me.  I will follow up on what you both have sent.  And Olle your info was helpful also.  Now I can go forth, with a little more background.  Pat

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