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Författare Ämne: Christening or death?  (läst 739 gånger)

2008-12-09, 07:04
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Utloggad Patricia Bozman

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I have located what I thought was a christening record in the Askeby records in Genline, for an individual that I have been told is an ancestor of mine, Ulrich Joensson. The reference is 271.11; C:1 page 3100. But it seems to me up in the right hand corner it says Dod. I also do not see the name of his father Joen Benctsson/Bengtsson, but see instead Niels Bengtsson, who would  have been his uncle if my information is correct.  Is there anyone who can read this old record better than me? Thank you!

2008-12-09, 18:17
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GID 271.11.3100 [Östergötland] Askeby C.1 1701-1807 page 109.
 
This is a page with baptism records, The Död in the corner most probably means that the child died. But there could be errors...
 
Anno 1702 the 27 JAnuary
was christened Joen's son at Byrby with the name Ulrich, the witnesses were...
 
Nils Bengtsson is the first witness, the father's name is Joen.
 
// Bo Johansson

2008-12-09, 19:11
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Hello!
 
I don't think that Död means that the boy died young. If you look in the book, you'll find many records with the same note, some of them dated. One is dated 1773, another as late as 1783. This was quite common, to note a person's death in the birth record.
Also I think that the place of birth was Öijebÿ, i.e. today's Öjeby.
 
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2008-12-09, 21:10
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Thank  you for your answers, Stefan and Bo. I was confused by the notation Dod, because Ullrich seems to appear in the records for a marriage to Christin Nilsdotter [360.26 C3 page 192] and also is noted as dying at the age of 40 in 1742 [360.26 C3 p. 394], which would match a birthdate in 1702. The information that I have says Fadern uppdrog åt honom 1729-03-16 1/3 av detta rusthåll, varför han 1730-01-10 inskrevs i Östergöta ryttares rulla, which I think means that his father asked that he be given[?] 1/3 of, I think, Stora Öijeby. I have no documentation for this, just a family tree with this information given. The information goes on to say that through his marriage he owned Kyrketorp, Rystad [Han ägde dessutom genom sitt giftermål Kyrketorp Rystads socken]. Does this make sense? I must say that I like Stefan's explanation because it fits in with the information that I already have, otherwise my family tree has some roots missing and I have a lot more work to do!

2008-12-10, 21:21
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Hello Patricia!
 
Yes, your information is correct! The text regarding Joen (or Jonas) handing over 1/3 of Öjeby to his son Ulrich, is found in the General Muster Roll 1733. Öjeby 'rote' belonged to the Tjust Company of Östgöta Cavalry Regiment.  Furthermore, in the roll of 1753 we find this text:
 
Gamle ryttaren Jonas Bengtsson som ägt 2/3-delar död; änkan Anna Johansdotter med deras barn och arvingar är istället därför d. 26 april 1745 inskrivna.
Ulrich Jonsson som ägt 1/3 också död; dess änka hustru Kristin Nilsdotter och deras 5 barn är på ovannämda dag också inskrivna för Öjeby.
 
The old cavalry man Jonas Bengtsson who owned 2/3 dead; the widow Anna Johansdotter with their children and heirs are instead therefore enrolled 26 April 1745.
Ulrich Jonsson who owned 1/3 also dead; his widow Mrs. Kristin Nilsdotter and their 5 children are on the date mentioned above also enrolled for Öjeby.
 
Your second translation about Kyrketorp in Rystads parish is also correct.
 
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Stefan
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2008-12-11, 03:39
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Stefan, thank you for confirming that the information I had was correct. I really appreciate it. All this detail makes the family history even more interesting.

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