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Författare Ämne: Genline help!  (läst 2701 gånger)

2007-06-22, 12:18
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Utloggad Al Neilson

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Hello again,
 
I need help reading GID:2125.69.89800 (AIA:10 Nyköpings Västra 1831-1835, page 340).
What is the note at the end of line 13 for Anders Petter Nilsson (Born 1807 Halla)?
 
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Al Neilson from Wirral

2007-06-22, 16:12
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Bo Johansson

Anders Peter Nilsson's remark: Uttagit lysningsattest (received certificate for banns) till Tuna (to Tuna parish) 19 mars 33(?) (19 Mar 1833?).
 
So he will probably marry in Tuna parish. Note the moving-in column, it looks like he came 1831 from Thuna, which is presumably the same parish.
 
Also look above his name, there is something written there. Has he taken the name Borg/Berg?
 
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2007-06-22, 20:51
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Thank you for your help!
 
On GID:2125.69.82200 (AIA:10 Nyköpings Västra 1831-1835) on line 10, where did Malena Nilsdotter(born 12/7/1810 in Stigtomta) move to in 1834?
 
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Al

2007-06-23, 12:08
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Hello again,
 
I have another query!
In GID:2125.69.70700 (AIA:10 Nyköpings Västra 1831-1835, page 150)- line 11, Anders Berg/Borg, what is his occupation and what is the note at the end of the line?  
 
I can read 'Slott' which is a castle but thats it!
 
Also why would his birth date & place be missing?
 
much appriciate any help,
 
Al from Wirral

2007-06-23, 14:11
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GID:2125.69.82200 - Very difficult to red the destination. Have you looked in the emigration record?
 
Or perhaps it is a destination in the parish kvart. ??? for a block or quarter of the town.
 
 
GID:2125.69.70700 - There is a castle in Nyköping, so that could fit. Perhaps his title is Slottsknekten (castle guard, castle soldier)?
 
The remark is Skattskrifven vid Slottet (registered for taxes at the castle).
 
He and the family move to page 139 (GID 2125.69.70700), there is no birthplace or birth date for him there either.
 
Could it be that he is registered at the castle, and is only mentioned here as husband and father?
 
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2007-06-23, 17:00
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I have checked the emmigration records for 1834-35 but have not found Malena Nilsdotter(born 12/7/1810 in Stigtomta).
 
If she had moved within the parish would not the page number be given? Anyhow I will scan the parish for Kvart Burgh's??????
 
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Al from Wirral

2007-06-24, 09:33
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The Castle in Nyköping served as a prison at that time. Most probably he worked as a prison guard. The correct adress would be Gård nr 96, 1:sta kvarteret, Nyköping Västra.
 
You'll find the family at GID 2125.71.7000 in AIA:11. Still no birth year och place for Anders Berg.
In the birth records and household rolls for Tuna, he is called Anders Peter Berg.
 
 
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2007-06-24, 12:06
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I have looked at the next HFL register for Anders Berg & family (AIA:12A 1841-1845)at the same address, Gård nr 96, 1:sta kvarteret - but he is not there! (GID:2125.72.595 to 598)  
 
There is no movement in the 1836-1841 HFL (GID 2125.71.7000)- Any ideas on where he moved too?
 
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Al from Wirral

2007-06-24, 17:24
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I too noticed that he disappeared without a trace. I checked a CD of estate inventories from Södermanland, and found that an estate inventory was made in 1858 after fånggevaldigern Anders Peter Berg in Nyköping. He left the widow Margareta Helena Andersdotter, and was obviously identical to your Anders Peter Berg.
He died in 1858 27/10 in Nyköping Östra (see GID 2143.50.14500), and lived in 5:te kvarteret nr 10, or page 120 in hfl AIA:16 (GID 2143.24.4811).  
 
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2007-06-25, 13:10
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Thanks for your help Camilla,
 
I have now followed all Anders Peter Nilsson/Berg movements from birth to death.
I'll now move on to the next great, great uncle/aunt!
 
much appreciate all your help - Sweden is certainly a great place to have ancestors!
 
kindest regards,
 
Al from Wirral

2007-06-25, 23:11
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What is fånggevaldigern ? - It's not in my dictionary!
 
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Al from Wirral

2007-06-25, 23:48
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Well, fång(e) is prisoner and gevaldiger is an old word for policeman/guard. He was a prison  guard.

2007-06-26, 11:15
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Thanks Camilla,
 
It is quite ironic that his father, Nils Andersson, was sentenced to life in prison after his 4th conviction for theft - he died there between 1831-1835. Then his son became a prison guard!
 
It may be he was in the same prison - such is life!
 
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Al from Wirral

2007-06-26, 16:49
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No, the prison in Nyköping was just for prisoners about to be sentenced, that were sentenced to a very short period of time in prison or waiting to get transferred to one of the major prison facilities of the time. Nils Andersson probably spent his first stint in prison there, and then he waited there for further transport for a couple of days the other times around.
 
 
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2007-06-26, 20:16
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Thanks for that information, Camilla.
 
Can you read the note  at the end of line 18 (GID:2125.71.27100 (AIA:11 Nyköpings Västra 1836-1840) page 340).  
I know Ulrica Sofia Nilsdotter (born 07 Mar 1816 in Stigtomta) married Eric Jansson (line 6) but I can't find them in the next HFL register! Any ideas?
 
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Al from Wirral

2007-06-27, 00:40
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Hi Al
 
Anyhow, Erik Jansson and Ulrika Sofia Nilsdotter had a baby boy, Johan Erik, 1841 25/8 in Nyköping. They lived then at Faktoriet (GID nr 2125.73.90000), but moved to Nyköping Östra in 1842.
 
 
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2007-06-27, 17:27
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Next question!
 
What is the note at the end of line 5, Maria Malena Nilsdotter, born 12 Jul 1810 in Stigtomta GID: 2125.72.69500 (AIA:12A, Nyköpings Västra, 1841-1845)?
 
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Al

2007-06-27, 18:35
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That her son Carl Oscar, born Aug 6, 1845 died Sep 1 the same year.
 
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