Help with birth and death records

[Leo McIntyre]

A previous posting resulted in my learning the names and birth dates of the parents of my ancestor who emigrated to the U.S.  I am wondering if anyone is able to help me obtain any other information about them?
 
Are any birth records available for the following?
Johannes Petersson, born 25 Jan. 1827 in Hjortsberga, Kronoberg's county  
Lisa Andersdotter b. 27 July 1831 in Rydaholm, Jönköpings län (Småland)
 
Is there any death information available for these 2 individuals?  Note that Johannes' last name at this point was Agnell, as he had been given a soldier's 3rd name.  I am not sure how Lisa would have been listed at death.  Both may have been in the Rydaholm area.
 
If this information is not available does anyone have a suggestion for the best way for someone who does not speak any Swedish to proceed to obtain it?

[Bo Nordenfors]

According to Census both alive as of 1900.
 
Record 4744167
 
Agnell, Johannes
Gratialist Inhyseshjon
 
b. 1827 in Hjortsberga (Kronobergs län, Småland)
 
Man, married, father
 
Kolfarp
Rydaholm (Jönköpings län, Småland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Hjortsberga Kronobergs län
 
 
Record 4744166
 
Andersdotter, Lisa
 
b. 1831 in Rydaholm (Jönköpings län, Småland)
 
h.
Woman, married, mother
 
Kolfarp
Rydaholm (Jönköpings län, Småland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Rydaholm Jönköpings län

[Bo Nordenfors]

Lisa Andersdotter died 23 Febr. 1901 in Rydaholm, Kolvarp, from pneumonia,
 
Source:  GID  1126.47.1800,  [Jönköping]  Rydaholm,  SCB, Död, 1898 - 1920, 0-0,  Bild 18 av 199    
 
Johannes Agnell died 4 May 1908 in Rydaholm (Kolvarp), from pneumonia
 
Source:  GID  1126.47.6000,  [Jönköping]  Rydaholm,  SCB, Död, 1898 - 1920, 0-0,  Bild 60 av 199

[Maud Svensson]

Johannes was born Jan 4, 1827 at Olshammar in Ryssby parish, Kronoberg county. He was just two years old when the family moved to Hökås, Hjortsberga parish, where six of his siblings were born. In household examination records he is noted as born Jan 5, 1827 in Hjortsberga, but according to his birth record he was born Jan 4 in Ryssby and baptised there Jan 7.
 
Farmer Peter Fritsson b. Aug 30, 1798 in Ryssby
Wife Maja Lisa Persdotter b. Jan 14, 1802 in Ryssby
(Married Dec 26, 1824 in Ryssby)
Their children:
d. Christina b. Nov 24, 1825 in Ryssby, died Mar 26, 1826 in Ryssby.
s. Johannes b. Jan 4, 1827 in Ryssby. Became grenadier Agnell 1848.  
d. Maria b. Nov 17, 1829 i Hjortsberga
s. Carl Fredrik b. Jun 16, 1832 in Hjortsberga (short-sighted).
d. Sara Stina b. Sep 29, 1834 in Hjortsberga
s. Anders Johan b. Jan 23, 1837 in Hjortsberga (lame and paralysed from about 1841).
s. Sven b. Sep 5, 1840 in Hjortsberga, died May 9, 1841 in Hjortsberga.
s. Sven b. Apr 11 1843 in Hjortsberga, died Aug 20, 1843 in Hjortsberga.
 
Sources, except those already mentioned:  
Hjortsberga household examinations 1828-1835 page 160, 1836-1840 page 198, 1841-1845 page 198, 1846-1850 page 149, 1851-1855 page 169.
The database og KGF, Kronoberg Genealogical Society.

[Maud Svensson]

Peter Fritsson died Jun 6, 1869 in Hökås, Hjortsberga.
His widow Maja (Maria) Lisa Persdotter died Oct 6, 1877 in Hökås, Hjortsberga.

[Bo Nordenfors]

Leo, sorry that I didn't check birth record for Johannes via book of births.  
Good to know Maud found the correct record.

[Bo Nordenfors]

Lisa Andersdotter born 27 July 1831 in Rydaholm to Anders Jaensson and Stina Persdotter, Nederled Lillegård. Baptism 31 July.
 
 
Source:  Rydaholm C:7 pg 44 GID  1126.28.94700
 
 
Anders Jaensson was born 1806 in Rydaholm,he died on 21 Febr. 1837.
 
Stina Persdotter was born in Rydaholm 1806.
 
she remarried to Andreas Johansson b. 1807 in Rydaholm.
 
Lisa´s siblings as far I see in the clerical survey mentioned below.
 
Nils Peter b. 1826;
Christina b. 1828
Maria b. 1834
 
half-brother
 
Johan b. 1839  
 
all children born in Rydaholm.
 
I have not checked in book of births, though.
 
source:  Rydaholm AI:10 (1832--1848P pg 563, GID 1126.12.74100
 
Lisa came to fosterparents already in 1840.
 
Fosterparents Eric Carlsson and Anna Johansdotter.
 
Source: Rydaholm AI:9 (1832 -- 1843) pg 191, GID 1126.11.37600

[Maud Svensson]

Lisa b. Jul 27, 1831 at Nederlid Lillegård, Rydaholm, Jönköping county. Baptised Jul 31. Daughter of Anders Jaensson and Stina Persdotter. (Rydaholm birth records C:7 1826-1854 page 44)
 
Farmer Anders Jeansson b. May 29, 1789 in Rydaholm
Wife Stina Persdotter b. Aug 20, 1806 in Rydaholm
s. Nils Peter b. Sep 8, 1826 in Rydaholm
d. Christina b. Nov 6, 1828 in Rydaholm
d. Lisa b. b Jul 27, 1831 in Rydaholm
 
Rydaholm household examination 1822-1831 page 277 and 556.

[Bo Nordenfors]

Good to have this doublecheck!Thanks!

[Maud Svensson]

Rydaholm birth records C:5 1781-1803:
Anders b. May 29, 1789, baptised May 31. Son of Jaen Jacobsson and his wife Kjerstin Nilsdotter in Boaryd, Rydaholm.
 
According to Rydaholm hh ex 1822-1831 page 277 Jaen Jacobsson was born Aug 28, 1750 and Kjerstin Nilsdotter May 6, 1750, both in Rydaholm.

[Leo McIntyre]

Maud and Bo,
Thank you both so much for all of this information.  It is more than I ever would have expected.  As I mentioned after Bo helped with my original post, I did not have any information on this line of my family history for the longest time.  Now within 2 weeks I have as much or more information as on all of the others.  
 
The Swedish record system is great, as are the two of you to offer this help.
 
I have one point for clarification.  It appears that Stina Persdotter must have died in 1839 or 1840.  She gave birth in 1839 to a son by her 2nd husband and her daughter Lisa Andersdotter went to foster parents in 1840.  Do I have that right?

[Bo Nordenfors]

No, Anders Jaensson died 21 Febr. 1837. The widow remarried, Lisa came to fosterparents, I have not tried to check whether Lisa came back to her biological mother.

[Ulla Lundell]

Hello Leo
 
I have found some about your Lisa
The year 1832-1843 she moved to a place called Torp page 191 there she was a foster child. In the year 1843-1852 page 207 Torp. Lisa moves to page 191 in the year 1849 to place called Lilla Grönlid. Her mother lives there.
 
The year 1850-1856 page 183 Lilla Grönlid she move to page 237 Södra Ryd in the year 1852. She is getting married in 1853 and she moves 1853 to a place but I can´t read the name.
 
I hope that this have given you som help
 
All the best Ulla

[Leo McIntyre]

Yes, thank you Ulla.  I assumed she went to foster parents because she became an orphan.  It doesn't seem that was the case.  There must have been some other family reasons.  It's also nice to have the date of her marriage.

[Michael Bankston]

Can someone help me with a birth Record. I am not completely familiar with the teminology used in the Parish Records just yet. I looked up a birth for one of my Ancestors named Johan Petter Viippola b. July 22, 1842 in Niemi's, Hietaniemi. I found the record in AD Online under Hietaniemi C:3 födelse- och dopbok  (1831-1861)  Bild 35. If anyone can help me read what it says about his Father I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.

[Maud Svensson]

The father was anonymous: Fadr. anonym.

[Judy Olson Baouab]

This article provides ideas on how to try to find the unknown father of an illegitimate child.
 
http://www.genealogi.se/roots/barn.htm
 
Judy