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Författare Ämne: Jöns Olsson  (läst 1426 gånger)

2009-05-27, 07:07
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We are looking for information on Jöns Olsson, we think he was born in either March or May 1803 in Mörarp but have been told his name does not appear in the birth records of that parish. Any help will be appreciated as we are hoping to locate any descendants from this family who are still living in Sweden.

2009-05-27, 10:33
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Leighton!
 
I did check and was also unable to find any Jöns Olsson born in Mörarp in/around 1803.
How did you get the name Jöns Olsson? If we know later records for him and his family we may have a better chance to find his earlier movements and origin.

2009-05-27, 20:33
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Thank so much Olle,
 
What I have on Jöns Olsson is as follows.
 
He was married to Anna Olsdotter b 2-14-1810 in Rodenlund, Mörarp, d 5-27-1864 In Mörarp. They had the foollowing children:
Ola Jönsson b. 11-2- or 5-24 1831 in Mörarp
Botilla b 4-6-1835 in Mörarp
Kjersti b 4-6-1840 in Mörarp
Elna b 0-21-1844 in Mörarp
Christina b 6-3-1849 in Morarp
Christina was married to Ola Swenson who bas born 2-5-1846 in Malmö an died 1-3-1931 in Texas.
 
That is all I have, hope it helps.
 
Leighton

2009-05-28, 09:53
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From the free index at www.ddss.nu
 
 
Born Mörarp Parish
1689 - 1894
Date   1835-03-26   Date refers to   birth
   ID No/Rules   315833/DDSS
Child
Name   Botilla   Gender   female
Marital status of parents   marriage   Number born   
Stillborn      Parity   
Father
Name   Jöns Olsson
Title   dräng
Place   N-o 1 L. Benarp
   
   
Mother
Name   Anna Olsdotter
Title   
Place   
Age/Year of Birth   25
Witness at the Christening
Torparen S. Ekmans vid Rosenlund Hustru Elna Nils d-r Gdm. Skräddaren Jöns Olsson i Mörarp. Dräng Lars Svensson i Mörarp.
Notes
 
 
I went to the clerical survey for Mörarp between 1834 and 1837,  pg 53, GID 1318.15.18200
 
Jöns Olsson appears to have been born 24 March 1803 in Mörarp but very bad script. I can't find him born 1803. The DOB is very clear in clerical survey between 1843 and 1849, pg 59, GID 1318.17.50400  -- exactly the date mentioned. There is a Jöns born 29 March 1803 to Anders Jönsson and Marna Isacksdotter. Therefore, you may doubt if Jöns Olsson was born in parish of Mörarp in 1803. Jöns Olsson can't be Jöns Andersson.  
 
Next birth:
 
Born Mörarp Parish
1689 - 1894
Date   1840-04-06   Date refers to   birth
   ID No/Rules   315946/DDSS
Child
Name   Kjersti   Gender   female
Marital status of parents   marriage   Number born   
Stillborn      Parity   
Father
Name   Jöns Olsson
Title   giftedräng  farmhand, married.
Place   Lydestad Benarp
   
   
Mother
Name   Anna Olsdotter
Title   
Place   
Age/Year of Birth   30
Witness at the Christening
Susc. Skräddaren Jöns Olsson i Mörarp Hustru Pernilla Ols d-r. Test: Skräddaren Jöns Olsson, Drg Lars Svensson på Gästgifvaregården i Mörarp.
Notes
 
Original source
Archives   Page number/Year index
Mörarps kyrkoarkiv  C:4   45 /  
 
 
D. Christina\s birth:
 
Born Mörarp Parish
1689 - 1894
Date   1849-06-03   Date refers to   birth
   ID No/Rules   316179/DDSS
Child
Name   Christina   Gender   female
Marital status of parents   marriage   Number born   
Stillborn      Parity   
Father
Name   Jöns Olsson
Title   husman
Place   N-o 1 L. Benarp
   
   
Mother
Name   Anna Olsdotter
Title   
Place   
Age/Year of Birth   39
Witness at the Christening
Husm. Pet. Stångberg och H. Boel i L. Benarp Dr. Ola Pålsson i Lydestad, Pig. Botilla Olsd-r i Mörshög.
Notes
 
Original source
Archives   Page number/Year index
Mörarps kyrkoarkiv  C:4   77 /  
 
D. Elna's birth:
 
     Print
Born Mörarp Parish
1689 - 1894
Date   1844-09-21   Date refers to   birth
   ID No/Rules   316053/DDSS
Child
Name   Elna   Gender   female
Marital status of parents   marriage   Number born   
Stillborn      Parity   
Father
Name   Jöns Olsson
Title   dräng
Place   N-o 1 L. Benarp
   
   
Mother
Name   Anna Olsdotter
Title   
Place   
Age/Year of Birth   34
Witness at the Christening
Ryktaren Per Jönsson och H. Ingar på Rosenlund, Husm. Jöns Olsson i Mörarp.
Notes

2009-05-28, 10:05
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From www.ddss.nu as well, marriage record:
 
Married in Vigda i Mörarps församling Parish
1689 - 1894
Date   1830-02-24   Date refers to   wedding
   ID No/Rules   97336/DDSS
Groom
Name   Jöns Olson
Title   dreng
Place   Allegården
Age/Year of Birth   
Civil Status   not given
Page in Household records   
   
Bride
Name   Anna Olasdoter
Title   piga
Place   Allegården
Age/Year of Birth   
Civil Status   not given
Page in Household records   
Unspecified Place   
Notes
Giftesmanen Pigans fader Ola Jönson ibm
 
Original source
Archives   Page number/Year index
Mörarps kyrkoarkiv  C:2   161 /  
Archival institution
 
I have not yet found Allégården.

2009-05-28, 10:08
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Probably death record of Jöns Olsson:
 
 
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Deceased in Döda i Mörarps församling Parish
1689 - 1894
Date   1870-02-16   Date refers to   death
   ID No/Rules   106605/DDSS
Deceased
Name   Jöns Olsson   Gender   male
Title   inhyses   Civil Status   widower
Place   N-o 1 Mörarp   Marital status of parents   not listed
Cause of Death   Age/Year of Birth
   
Year:  66   Month:  10   Day:  22
Date of Birth:  
Death Certificate   
Relative
Name      Place   
Title      Relation   
Notes
Omyndigt barn Christina född 1849 3/6.  
 
Original source
Archives   Page number/Year index
Mörarps kyrkoarkiv  F:1   27 /  4
 
www.ddss.nu

2009-05-28, 10:17
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Clerical survey Mörarp AI:10 (1866--1870) pg 44, GID  1318.24.32100
 
last record of Jöns Olsson in household examination roll:
 
still same DOB!
and place as well.
 
Suggest you browse clerical survey about 1803 in Mörarp - birth record can be omitted by mistake
 
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2009-05-28, 18:01
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In the earliest record where I found Jöns (Mörarp AI:1 page 45) at Lilla Benarp Nr 1 it says that boy Jöns was born 04 in Mörarp. He came from Mörarp in 1818 e.g. just 14 years old. Was he born out of wedlock? or did his mother die?
He moved to Mörarp No 5 in 1820.
 
I note that birth year 04 follows during some of his migrations but then changes to 03...
 
Another fact is that Mörarp was a so-called annex to Kropp parish and Kropp has earlier records which includes (at least some of) Mörarp villages.

2009-06-01, 17:37
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Thanks again Olle and Bo,
 
I have recently uncovered some additional information on Jöns Olsson which may be of some help in finding his date of birth. His Father is Ola Jönsson, b 1-21-1782 in Allegården, Rosenlund, Mörarp and d 10-10-1841 his Mother was Boell Svensdotter, b 9-25-1781 in Kågeröd and d 9-17-1842 in Mörarp. Their children were Margaretha b 1-3-1800, Anna Olsdotter b 2-14-1810, Jöns  9-14-1811 (different from date you were previously given) and Botilla b 2-2-1821.
 
Hopes this will help.

2009-06-13, 20:47
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Olle and Bo,
You have been doing some research for Leighton Lundgren but it was for
myu family. Leighton and I go way back but don't seem to be kin because of deaths and re-marriages. He has been trying to find some info about Jöns Olsson for me.  
Do you know anything about Ola Swenson born 2-5-1846 - Malmö, Sweden as we have nothing on him. He was my great-grandfather and I don't even know when he came to America. He is buried(1-3-1931) in Kimbro, Texas. His wife was Christina Jönsdaughter (6-3-1849) daughter of Jöns Olsson. If you can help me with any of this, I would greatly appreciate it. I have been trying to get Leighton to make a trip to
Sweden with me but he has his own agenda.
Thanks so much.
Barbara Gustafson Pate}

2009-06-13, 23:26
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Hello Barbara, yes I think I found Ola and his wife.
 
this from emigration records (EMIBAS)
 
Post 520696
 
Jönsdotter, Kristina
Hustru (married woman)
 
b. 6/3/1849 in Mörarp, Malmöhus län (Skåne)
 
Emigrated 11/25/1881
from Kolfältet, Norra Vram (Södra Vram), Malmöhus län (Skåne)
to Amerika
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 181
 
Emibas migration file ID: Norra Vram (Södra Vram) M 1881 037
 
 
 
Post 520695
 
Svensson, Ola
Gruvarbetare (married man)  gruvarbetare=miner
 
b. 2/5/1845 in Ekeby, Malmöhus län (Skåne)
 
Emigrated 11/25/1881
from Kolfältet, Norra Vram (Södra Vram), Malmöhus län (Skåne)
to Amerika
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 181
 
Emibas migration file ID: Norra Vram (Södra Vram) M 1881 036
 
 
Post 520697
 
Olsdotter Svensson, Alma Josefina
Dotter (unmarried woman)
 
b. 10/20/1880 in Norra Vram, Malmöhus län (Skåne)
 
Emigrated 11/25/1881
from Kolfältet, Norra Vram (Södra Vram), Malmöhus län (Skåne)
to Amerika
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 181
 
Emibas migration file ID: Norra Vram (Södra Vram) M 1881 038
 
Un-normalized versions:
 
Parish of birth: Södra Vram

2009-06-13, 23:54
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Barbara:  Soon midnight here, but let us know if you wish more on Ola and Kristina - so perhaps tomorrow we are ready to proceed.

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