Karl Eriksson, born 1810-1840, probably from Jämtland.

[Norwegian hobby-genealogist]

Hello,
I am Norwegian but would prefer to get replies in English as I don't understand Swedish very well.  
 
I have a Swedish ancestor who I am trying to find out more about.
 
His name is Karl Eriksson, and he had an illegitimate child with a woman in Strinda near Trondheim in 1863. He was probably born between 1810 and 1840. He worked as a stenhugger (stonecutter?). I am not sure which part of Sweden he is from, but my guess is somewhere in Jämtlands län.
I can't find him in the Norwegian 1865 census, nor in any church records from the time period between 1850 and 1875.
 
Do you have any suggestions on how I can find more about this person? Or should I just give up?
 
Thanks in advance!

[Judy Olson Baouab]

Hopefully you will find some sort of birthdate for this man since I'm sure you know that a birth date of probably 1810-1840 is not detailed enough for such a common name.  
 
It is not certain, of course, that someone who was a stone cutter in Norway was a stone cutter when he left Sweden.
 
I see this possibility on the Emibas CD, made from registrations in the Swedish parish to go to a foreign country. I would not feel comfortable saying he is yours on such a small amount of information but here is his information, just in case.
 
Post 948958
 
Eriksson Elingspers, Anders
Stenhuggare (unmarried man)
 
b. 5/19/1837 in Orsa, Kopparbergs län (Dalarna)
 
Emigrated 10/29/1877
from Kallmora 20 ?, Skattunge, Kopparbergs län (Dalarna)
to Norge
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 153
 
Emibas migration file ID: Skattunge W 1877 002
 
Here is a paver with his family.
 
Post 697681
 
Karlsson Eriksson, Carl Petter
Stensättare (married man)
 
b. 6/3/1827 in Göteborgs domkyrkoförs, Göteborgs och Bohus län (Västergötland)
 
Emigrated 5/14/1855
from Göteborgs domkyrkoförs, Göteborgs och Bohus län (Västergötland)
to Oslo fylke, Norge
 
Source: Emibas migration file ID: Göteborgs domkyrkoförs O 1855 017
 
Un-normalized versions:
 
Parish of birth: Göteborg Domkyrko
Place of destination: Kristiania
Country of destination: Norge
 
Post 697682
 
Karlsson Flogren, Fredrika Charlotta
Hustru (married woman)
 
b. 8/8/1831
 
Emigrated 5/14/1855
from Göteborgs domkyrkoförs, Göteborgs och Bohus län (Västergötland)
to Oslo fylke, Norge
 
Source: Emibas migration file ID: Göteborgs domkyrkoförs O 1855 018
 
Un-normalized versions:
 
Place of destination: Kristiania
Country of destination: Norge
 
Post 697683
 
Karlsson, Maria Isabella
Flicka (unmarried woman)
 
b. 10/20/1854
 
Emigrated 5/14/1855
from Göteborgs domkyrkoförs, Göteborgs och Bohus län (Västergötland)
to Oslo fylke, Norge
 
Source: Emibas migration file ID: Göteborgs domkyrkoförs O 1855 019
 
Un-normalized versions:
 
Place of destination: Kristiania
Country of destination: Norge
 
 
I don't understand why you would consider giving up. We all have difficult people to research but as time goes on, we sometimes find some more clues, and records are becoming easier to find all the time. It is certainly a lot easier for me to do Swedish genealogy now than it was when I started in 2000 and most likely research will continue to become easier and easier as time goes by and more records go online or onto cds. I keep my problem people in mind even if I'm not actively working on finding them, and work on easier lines too. Every once in a while I find a new clue which motivates me to work on difficult people again, but I don't obsess over them. Genealogy is supposed to be fun and not constant misery, which it might become if we only work on one difficult person.
 
Assuming that this man was the father to an illegitimate child, aren't there court records or some other sort of records to investigate, in case he was fined or something like that?
 
Judy

[Judy Olson Baouab]

I looked again at your message and obviously the stenhuggare emigrated to Norway too late. Forget about him.
 
Judy

[Norwegian hobby-genealogist]

Judy,
 
Thank you for your reply!
 
I am trying to figure out his birthyear; I'm pretty sure his age is stated in his son's birth records, but unfortunately I can't quite figure out what it says (the church book is a bit unclear).
I found out that he was from Sweden from Nils' confirmation records, but it doesn't say any more about him either there or in Nils' marriage records.
 
Nils' mother was born in 1827, so I suppose I can narrow Karl's birth year range down to 1820-1830... But still, that's not nearly enough.

[Judy Olson Baouab]

If you scan the record and post it here, perhaps someone can read the date. There are directions on how to post a photo of a record on this board.
 
http://aforum.genealogi.se/discus/messages/11906/29511.html?1182891981
 
Judy