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Författare Ämne: Karl Otto Karlson, born 1866 Taby Parish Stockholm  (läst 1885 gånger)

2005-03-07, 20:58
läst 1885 gånger

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I didn't even know that Oskar, Erik and Karl Otto existed until you posted the other day.  I only knew of 3 brothers and one sister (Johan, Svante, Aron and Klara).  
 
Regarding Karl Otto, is Gribbylund estate/manor the home name of Carl and Cathrina? In other words, this would be where I would go to see where he grew up?  Did the parish records say anything about siblings? or the birth records of Carl Olsson and Cathrina?
 
Maud, I can't thank you enough, please don't think that each thank you is less sincere that the previous.  I studied in SE in 1997 at SVF in Jonkoping.  It was a wonderful experience.  During that time, I found the birthplace and home farm of my morfar.  I also saw his parents grave sites and home kyrka.  It was incredible.  Since then I have been hooked on locating all of the roots of my family.  You have been so helpful.  My wife is amazed. Her brother took her family back 13+ generation within the US itself.  
 
Thanks again...

2005-03-07, 22:12
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2005-03-08, 19:19
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The three brothers died very young:
 
OSKAR b. 1862-11-29, d. 1866-02-13  
ERIK b. 1865-06-21, d. 1869-02-14. Cause ot death: measles.
KARL OTTO b. 1867-08-28, d. 1869-02-07. Cause of death: measles.
 
(Source: Falbygdens släktforskarförening, transcripts of Sörby death records)
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2005-03-15, 15:33
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Could someone do a Genline look up for Carl Olsson was born 08 Sept 1839 in Hagby parish, in the county of Kalmar and for Catharina Erica (Ulrica) was born 28 April 1841 in Tuna parish in the county of Uppsala?  
 
I am looking for their parents'/sibilings' names and to go further back than that if possible.  
Thank you for any help.
 
~Steve

2005-03-15, 22:31
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Steve!
 
Couldn't find Carl Olsson
However Catharina Erica born in Nyvalla:
Father Farmer Eric Erson Lundin *1814 Dec 16 Alunda
Mother Greta Cajsa (Catharina) Thun * 1812 Oct 11 Alunda
Catharina Erica siblings:
Anna Charlotta * 1838 Nov 12
Eric Gustaf *1840 Feb 10
Above from GID 2271.15.52200
 
Greta Catharina * Tuna by, Tuna parish
GID 2271.26.6400  
Father Soldier Anders Thun *1796 March 20
Mother Cathrina Jansdotter
This info from GID 2271.12.88800

2005-03-15, 22:57
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WOW!  Thank you so much for that look up.  That is wonderful news.  
 
I wonder why Carl is so difficult to find.  Must be many of them . ..   Maybe there is wrong information?
 
Thank you Olle!  
 
Is there another way to find him?  I got his info from the National Archives in Stockholm...
 
Steve

2005-03-17, 20:09
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Can someone do a Genline look-up for Sollentuna between 1851 and 1870 for Carl Ollson b. 30 June 1839 and Katarina Ulrica Lundin b 28 April 1841?  I am looking to see if it shows this couple moving to Täby or if it talks about children, etc.  
 
Thank you for any help!
 
Steve Karlson

2005-03-18, 17:23
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I have confirmed with the archives in Sweden and another helpful person of my family line back to Jön Olofsson b 16 Sept 1754 in Hagby, Kalmar län.  This is great news for me!  
 
Is anyone able to determine Jön's parents?  
 
Thank you to all who have helped by go this far back in my family.  I have ordered films here in the US, and now I know who to look for to get the official records!
 
THANK YOU AGAIN!  Steve

2005-04-01, 00:58
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I would really like to track what happened to Karl Otto's first wife Hanna Sigrid Elin Carlsson (Wahnstrom).  According to Maud, the  population register of Södermalm, still was a tapetserarehustru (upholsterer's wife) when she left in Nov 1893.    
 
Does anyone know if this shows where she travelled through?  Goteborg Malmo?  Then it will easier to trace where/when she went to the US?  I don't know where else to look.  I've been trying to pull her name up on searches online without luck.
 
Thanks in advance for any help!

2005-04-12, 23:05
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Steve,
this is what I have found about your family in Sörby.
 
Household examination records of Sörby 1850-1859, 1862-1868, 1868-1875:
Vessmedstorp Östergården
Johannes Svensson b 11 Jun 1822 in Floby, Skaraborg county (R)
Lovisa Dorothea Pehrsdotter b 21 Mar 1830 in Knätte, Älvsborgs county (P).  
(Married 3 Jan 1852)
Johanna Sophia b 5 Aug 1852
Svante b. 3 Jan 1854
Johan Petter b 21 Feb 1856
Emma b 26 Nov 1858
Clara b 19 Oct 1860
Oscar b 29 Nov 1862, d 13 Feb 1866
Eric b 21 Jun 1865, d 14 Feb 1869  
Carl Otto b 28 Aug 1867, d 7 Feb 1869
Augusta b 5 Sep 1870
Aron b 17 Sep 1873
Kajsa Bengtsdotter (Johannes Svensson's mother) b 10 Aug 1794 in Floby, d 1 Jul 1873 in Sörby.
 
Birth records of Floby, in which Trävattna births are included:
Johannes Svensson b 11 Jun 1822 in Trävattna parish (R)
Parents: Sven Andersson and his wife Caisa Bengtsdotter at Hulegården, Trävattna.
 
Household examination records of Trävattna 1816-1830:  
Hulegården
Sven Andersson b 10 Oct 1789 in Grolanda (R)
Caisa Bengtsdotter b 10 Aug 1794 in Floby
Anders b 23 Sep 1819 in Sörby  
Johannes b 11 Jun 1822 in Floby
The family moved to Gökhem (R) in 1825.  
 
Birth records of Grolanda:
Sven b 10 Oct 1789
Parents: And. Svensson and his wife Maria Bryngelsdotter at Millomgården.
 
Birth records of Floby:
Caisa b 9 Aug 1794 (baptized 10 Aug)
Parents: Bengt Olofsson and his wife Maja Hansdotter at Långö.
 
Birth records of Knätte:
Lovisa Dorothea b 20 Mar 1830 (baptized 21 Mar)  
Parents: Peter Johansson and his wife Johanna Andersdotter at Korsryd.
 
Household examination records of Knätte 1825-1836:
Korsryd
Peter Johansson b 24 Sep 1794 in Böne (P)
Johanna Andersdotter b 29 Aug 1800 in Kölingared (P)
Lovisa Dorothea b 21 Mar 1830 in Knätte
Clas Victor b 21 Mar 1834 in Knätte
 
Birth records of Böne:
Peter b 25 Sep 1794
Parents: Joh. Pehrsson and his wife Lisa Arvidsdotter at Långåsen.
 
Birth records of Kölingared:
Johanna b 29 Aug 1800
Parents: Anders Andersson and his wife Stina Jonasdotter at Vråna.
 
For death dates of Johannes Svensson and Lovisa Dorothea Pehrsdotter, write:
floby.pastorat@svenskakyrkan.se
 
For information on your ancestors further back, write:
landsarkivet@landsarkivet-goteborg.ra.se
 
Kind regards,
Maud
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2005-05-18, 19:41
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Carl Otto Carlsson född  28/3 1866 Gribbylund Täby (AB) till USA 1893.
 
 
Concerning the discussion between Steve Karlsson and Birgitta Berkemar, starting Tuesday the 15 March 2005 by Steve Karlson . The topic of the day “Can someone help me find my great-grandfather?s birthplace (---)”.  
 
My name is Lennart Wallerman and my year of birth is 1937 Sankt Göran parich in Stockholm, and I married a woman 1963 she is born and living in Täby and we are still living in Täby. My wife have background and relationship in Täby back to 1728.
Täby has been occupied off and on during the Ston Age (att that space of time the surface of water was 25 metres higher and today). People has sins 400 B.C. more permanent reside Täby. Täby is characteristic for the monument from the Viking Age 1000 B.C. “Runstenar/runic stone”.
 
I will start my discussion with Carl Otto Carlsson born 28/3 1866 at Gribbylund, Täby. (Gribbylund is a part of Täby and a farm, nowdays is the farming a past phenomenon)  
Carl Ottos? family:
father Carl Olsson born 8/9 1839 Hagby Kalm.
Mother Catarina Ericl Lundin born 28/4 1841 Tuna, Uppland
Children:
Carl Otto born 28/3 1866 Gribbylund, Täby
Knut Emil born 12/3 1868 Karby, Täby
Johan Oscar born 31/5 1870 Näsby, Täby
Sofia Erika Mathilda born 28/8 1872 Spånga
Johanna Bernhardina born 1/6 1876 Sanda, Fresta
Gustaf Henning born 22/5 1881 Öfraby, (Övraby nowdays spelling), Sollentuna
Erik Rikard born 6/11 1883 Öfraby, Sollentuna
 
The year 1866 when Carl Otto is born, 41 child is born in Täby, 24 girl and 17 boy. The population of Täby at this time is between 900 – 1000, and it’s a agricultural district. Nowdays the total number of inhabitans is more and 60,000, and are more or less a suburb to Stockholm “Stan på landet / the Town in the countryside”
 
During the family stay at Sollentuna Carl Otto leave the home 17/1 1881, and he went to Stockholm, he live at Södermalm, Maria Högbergsgatan 31; Bangårdsgatan 8 (block Nederland 3)
Carl Otto is apprentice (bookbinder). The year1884 is Carl Otto apprentice (upholsterer), the year 1888 is he Upholsterer.
When and where ? Carl Otto mett his prospective wife, Hanna Sigrid Elin Wallström born 4/8 1865 Hedvig Eleonora, Stockholms stad is without my knowledge. But the banns have been published for Carl Otto and Hedvig for the first time 8/3 1891 at Katarina, församling. The marriage ceremony is 18/4 1891. Methodist pastor, J.M. Eriksson officiated at the wedding.
Both of them was member of the Methodist church.
 
 
Place there Carl Otto reiside in Sweden.
1866 Gribbylund Täby
1866 Karby gård Täby
1868 Näsby gård Täby 1870 Skälby Sollentuna  
1872 Spånga
1872 Sanda Fresta
1879 Öfraby Sollentuna
1881 Maria Högbergsgatan 31; Bangårdsgatan 8 (biockNederland 3) Södermalm Stockholm.
1884 Axelsgränd 6; Sandbergs Tvärgrend 7; Nya gatan 8; Skånegatan 8 (block bondetorpet 13  
          Södermalm Stockholm.
1886 Koksgatan 2,4 Götgatan 51 (block Farmaren 1,2) Södermalm Stockholm.
1888 Folkungagatan 2 B Götgatan 46 (block Bryggaren 1,2,3.) Södermalm Stockholm.
1889 Kungsgatan 46 (block Häroldern 13) Kungsholmen Stockholm.
1890 Skärgårdsgatan 1 (block Andromeda 8) Gamla staden Stockholm.
1891 Blecktornsgränd 7; Tavastgatan 12 (block Katten större 2) Södermalm Stockholm
          Marriage 18/4 1891.
1892 Jacob församling Stockholm
1893 8/7 Utflyttar till USA.
 
Place there Hanna Sigrid Elin Wallström/Carlsson reiside in Sweden.
1865 4/8 1865 born in Hedvig Eleonora Stockholms stad
1883 Svartensgatan 5 (block Fiskaren större 20) ) Södermalm Stockholm
1884 Adolf Fredriks torg 6 (block Rosendal mindre 6) ) Södermalm Stockholm
1890 Kapellgränd 16; Östgötagatan 23 (block Sturen större 2) ) Södermalm Stockholm
1891 Blecktornsgränd 7; Tavastgatan 12 (block Katten större 2) Södermalm Stockholm
          Marriage 18/4 1891.
1892 Jakob församling Stockholm.
1893 Södermannagatan 16 A; Åsögatan 44 A, 44 B (block Timmermannen 20,21) Södermalm    
          Stockholm.
1893 14/11 Utflyttar till USA.
 
Conclusion.
We have find some of your relative and sam siblings to Carl Otto. But there are more to do particular with Carl Ottos?  wife. I have a book about Gribbylund and there are a photo of the farm  there Carl Otto is born, but its from 1875.
 
http://www.taby.se/
http://www.hembygd.se/stockholm/taby
http://www.canit.se/~griffon/diverse/runes/
http://www.stockholmtown.com/templates/SimplePage____7289.aspx
 
http://web.telia.com/~u86408152/index.htm
 
 
Good – bye for now
Lennart Wallerman

2006-03-27, 05:11
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Hello!  
 
I have come to the point where I would like to find the desendants of my Karl Otto's brother and sister.    Any help in finding them or their marriages/families so that I can learn if the moved to the US or stayed in Sweden - which will mean I have living family in Sweden!!!
 
Brother Gustaf Henning Karlsson born 1881 in Sollentuna, Stockholms lan
 
Erik Richard born 1883 in Sollentuna
 
Johanna Bernhardina born 1876 in Fresta, Stockholms Lan.
 
Thank you in advance for any information!!!
 
Steve

2006-03-27, 10:04
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Perhaps Gustaf Henning used his father's patronymic name. The 1890 Swedish Census cd shows that the father was Karl Olsson.
 
From the Death CD 1947-2003:
 
 
18810522-103
 
Olsson, Gustav Henning
 
Sollentuna församling (sjuka)
 
Dead 4/5/1962.
 
Registered in Sollentuna, Sollentuna kn (Stockholms län, Uppland).
 
Born 5/22/1881 in Sollentuna (Stockholms län, Uppland).
 
Unmarried man.
 
Comments: Personnr 18810522-101
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Parish of birth in the records:
Sollentuna (Stockholm)
 
Source records:
DB, DA / DOR 62
 
Perhaps this one used Karlsson because he was Karls' son.
 
 
18831106-0191
 
Karlson, Erik Richard
 
Dalag 32 5 tr
113 24  Stockholm
(Address as of Nov 1, 1970)
 
Dead 12/2/1975.
 
Registered (1967) in Gustav Vasa, Stockholms stad (Stockholms län, Uppland). Registered for taxation (1967) in the same parish.
 
Born 11/6/1883 in Sollentuna (Stockholms län, Uppland).
 
Widower (3/9/1956).
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Parish of birth in the records:
SOLLENTUNA (Stockholm)
 
Source records:
MTL 71 / RTB 76
 
Judy

2006-03-27, 20:17
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Judy,
 
Thank you.  You state Erik was a widower.  Do the records mention his wife or children's names?
 
THANK YOU!
 
Steve

2006-03-28, 00:21
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Steve,
 
I had tried to find Erik's wife on the cd, but an obvious woman was not listed. This person died on the right date and was a Karlsson but she died far away from the right location. Perhaps Erik did live there, but I have no idea if she is the right person. You'll need to check.
 
18900416-394
 
Karlsson f. Hallman, Blenda Josefina
 
Lilla Köpinge 12:1
 
Dead 3/9/1956.
 
Registered in Stora Köpinge, Herrestads kn (Malmöhus län, Skåne).
 
Born 4/16/1890 in Bjäresjö (Malmöhus län, Skåne).
 
Married woman (12/2/1922).
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Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2005:
Stora Köpinge, Ystads kn (Skåne län, Skåne)
 
Parish of birth in the records:
Bjäresjö (Malmöhus)
 
Source records:
DB, PA / DOR 52-60
 
The children might be listed, if you knew who they were, on the 1970 or 1980 census cds, but without that name information, I suggest that you contact the parish and tell them what you need to know.
 
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