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[Lori Eckman]

Hi ,  
 
I am having a problem reading two parish names to track a relative further.
It is in Jönköping , Mulseryd Household Examination 1844-1859
A1:5 GID 1116.5.71500 page 132
It is the eighth name up from the bottom  
Anders Nilsson Ekman 3 April 1829 Kävsjö  1852 1853
I would appreciate any help you can give me :}
 
Lori

[Jöran Johansson]

The first name is Stengårdshult, here shortened to Steng.hult.
The second is not a parish namen but obestämd ort (shortened to obest. ort) which means an unspecified place.
 
/Jöran Johansson
 
P.S:
The correct page number was 119. Maybe Genline has its own numbering.

[Elisabeth Thorsell]

It is the handwritten page 119(!) in Mulseryd AI:5, Jära Södergård.
 
He came there in 1852 from Stenghult[Stengårdshult] and he moved in 1853 to obestemd ort [unknown place].
Jöran was faster than me!
 
(Meddelandet ändrat av elisabeth 2010-03-20 17:58)

[Lori Eckman]

Thank You so much ! That helps a lot even though the next place is unknown it is the only year I am lacking for him and I think it may have been the year he married. I know who he married so I will see if I can track her from birth forward to see if perhaps they married in her parish that year :}
I appreciate you both taking the time to help !!
 
Lori

[Eva Dahlberg]

Lori, as I read the Aron Ekman-discussion I see that Anders Nilsson Ekman's wife is Ingrid Kristina Johansdotter - that means that it's this couple that marry in Åker parish in 1856
 
note from the cd from the Genalogical Society in Jönköping (JBGF) - the cd is only in swedish:
 
Ekman, Anders
Dräng
Häradsö
 
Johannesdotter, Ingrid Kristina
Piga
Aspö
 
Vigda 24/12 1856 i Åker (Jönköpings län)
 
--------------
Källa: C:5
 
regards,
Eva

[Eva Dahlberg]

Lori, in the household records for Åker 1851-1856 in volume AI:11, you'll find the cottage Aspö/Aspön and Ingrid Christina with her parents on page 330 (handwritten) aand Häradsö and the farmhand (dräng) Anders Nilsson Ekman on page 308. He moves in from Angerdshestra (here spelled Angjerdshestra) in 1855.
 
In volume AI:12 which covers 1856-1860, they are on pages 290 (handwritten), 64 and 232.
 
I looked quickly for him in Angerdshestra's moving out records for 1855, which are in Bottnaryd BI:4, but didn't find him.
 
regards,
Eva

[Eva Dahlberg]

In the discussion I link to above about the son Aron, there is a lot more about Anders Nilsson Ekman and the family, so I continue there.
 
/Eva

[Lori Eckman]

Hi ,  
 
I have another record that I really could use help reading if anyone can help me. I am trying out AD Online free and i wanted to find the parents of my Great Grandfather who came to the US.
I found his Birth Record but I really can't read it to see who the parents are and where I should be looking for the family next. I'm not sure what information you need from the records so i will include everything.
 
SE/LLA/ 13358 Snöstorp C:4 ( 1844-1875 ) Bild 51 / sid 95
 
Johan Henning Magnusson  April 10 , 1853
 
Thank You ,  
 
Lori

[Bo Nordenfors]

Magnus Svensson, farm hand, and Beata Petersdotter , place:  Frennarp (even spelled Frännarp)
 
 
Source:  GID  1745.28.47200,  [Halland]  Snöstorp,  C.4, Födde,Död, 1844 - 1875, 94-0,  Bild 53 av 204   (I use Genline service from www.genline.com - another subscription service)
 
the family is found in the clerical survey Snöstorp AI:4 (1848--1854) pg 90, GID (short for  Genline Id Nbr) =1745.17.49600
 
Magnus Svensson was born in Snöstorp 1825, August 29 (faded)
his spouse was born in Slättåkra 1829, Febr. 20.
 
Snöstorp and Slättåkra are both parishes within county of Halland, also province of Halland.

[Bo Nordenfors]

May add that Magnus Svensson and his family are listed at a certain page for those with unknown whereabout as from 1854 according to clerical suruvey Snöstorp AI:5 (1855--1862) pg 221, GID  1745.18.75700. A remark says they left for  Söndrum (parish)  1857 .
Unfortunately I find no moving in records for Söndrum online at Genline for 1857. Perhaps subscribers at SVAR or Arkiv Digital can help.

[Lori Eckman]

Hi Bo ,  
 
Thank You so much ! I have Genline as well so I will look into the records you found as well for me. I really appreciate the help :}
 
Lori

[Lori Eckman]

Hi ,  
 
I am having problems again reading a record and I am looking for help in decipering it.
It is Glostorp C1:1 Births 1707-1811 106/98  
June 8 , 1832 Ola
Any information on who his parents were as well as where to look next would be greatly appreciated :}
 
Lori

[Lori Eckman]

Also I can't read the Parish to search for Anders Pehrsson's birth records for his parents names:
 
Glostorp AI:1 Household Exam 1813-1819 Bild 75/sid 100
                            1820-1833 Bild 70/sid 90
 
 
Thank You ,  
Lori

[Åke Lundqvist]

Hello Lori
Ola was born June 8 1804 and christened June 10. His father was Anders Persson and his mother Kjersti Olasdotter. Anders Persson was born September 9 1770 in Hindby, a village in Fosie parrish. Both Käglinge and Hindby/Fosie are close to Malmö.
Åke Lundqvist, Lund, Sweden

[Åke Lundqvist]

Hello again Lori
Fosie CI:2 Births 1766-1826 Bild 22/sid 13:
1770 September 9 in the evening about 10 o'clock was born i Hindby Rusthållaren Per Larsson's and Trune Andersdotter's little son.....Anders.
Åke

[Lori Eckman]

Hi ,  
 
Thank you so much , that helps a lot !  
Now I am stuck again , it seems to be when they move and I have to try to read a parish that I get stuck. Here is what I have :
Runo Gothger Gronquist
Born : 11/24/1860
Came to the USA in 04/22/1892
I have tracked his birth and up til he moved from Vimmerby in 1886  
Vimmerby household AI : 16 1881-1890 bild 155/ sid 147
Vimmerby Moving record  BI : 1 1861-1894 Bild 79
I don't know where to find him next and I am trying to find out if he was married to his first wife here or in the US. I want to track the 6 years before he left as well as his passage.
Any help on getting me on the right path to track him with a parish name would be greatly appreciated.
 
Lori

[Elisabeth Thorsell]

Here he is in Emibas database:
 
Post 321322
 
Grönqvist, Runo Gottger
Murare [mason] (unmarried man)
 
b. 11/24/1860 in Vimmerby, Kalmar län (Småland)
 
Emigrated 1892
from Adolfsberg, Vimmerby stadsförs, Kalmar län (Småland)
to Nordamerika
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 348
 
Emibas migration file ID: Vimmerby stadsförs H 1892 012

[Lori Eckman]

Hi ,  
 
Thank You so very much !
Is there someplace on Ad Online, Genline or elsewhere that I can view his passage records ?
 
Lori

[Elisabeth Thorsell]

Hi Lori, according to another database Emihamn, based on the reords made when he had to show his ticket to the police in his departure port, he left from Göteborg on 22 April 1892. He had a ticket for Jamestown, probably the one in upstate New York, which was a very Swedish place. He travelled alone. Next you could try to find him in the Ellis Island records.

[Lori Eckman]

Hi Elisabeth ,  
 
Thank You so much again ! I knew that was where he ended up and is still the area we all live in so that makes it a bit easier for me to find records I hope.  
http://www.gronquistfamily.com/
That is what made me start looking into the family tree and tracing everyone as we had a family member that went there years ago and compiled that story posted under family documents if you are interested. Runo's father was a windmill builder in Sweden and kept journals of his life but mostly not personal stuff. I very much appreciate your help as I am very new to this and not speaking Swedish and not knowing the area names for Parish's has been my toughest hurdle. This board has been a God send :}
 
Lori

[Lori Eckman]

Hi ,  
 
I am trying to see if this passage is the correct one for my relative:
Name: Carl Aug. Lindström  
Birth Year: abt 1835  
Place of Origin: Sverrig  
Destination: New York  
Record Date: 14 okt 1891 (14 Oct 1891)  
Port of Departure: Köpenhamn  
Database Name: EmiHamn  
Occupation/Title: Sömand  
Archive Call Number: 3011  
Principal Person: Lindström Carl Aug.  
 
I have Ad Online and Genline to do the searching but I don't know where this is ?
 
Lori

[Judy Olson Baouab]

Lori,
 
 
You said you don't know where this is, but what is this?  
 
If you mean Place of Origin, then Sverrig is probably Sverige, the Swedish name for Sweden.
 
If you mean Port of Departure, then Köpenhamn is the Swedish spelling of Copenhagen, a city and port in Denmark.
 
If this is something else, please elaborate.
 
Judy

[Anna-Carin Betzén]

The entry seems to be in Danish (makes sense as the ship departed from Copenhagen). Sverrig is Danish for Sweden, and his occupation is seaman (Danish sømand). So there's no town or parish name given.
 
However, if Copenhagen was just a brief stopover on his trip from Sweden to the US in 1891, he likely lived in Sweden in 1890. And then someone with access to the 1890 Swedish census database can do a lookup and see if they can find a good match. Also, I noticed the entry is from Emihamn - is there any match for him in the Emibas database (emigration data extracted from parish records, so there you always get the parish name)? (I'm sorry I can't help you with this, as I don't have access to either.)
 
(Meddelandet ändrat av acb 2010-04-08 18:56)

[Lori Eckman]

Hi ,  
 
Thank You , I did know that Sverrig meant Sweden but I was hoping there was something in that information that I was missing to give me a place to start looking for him.  
I did not know the other  meant Copenhagen though  lol
I don't know anything about the Census or Emibas records  
Any help on that ?

[Judy Olson Baouab]

I don't see anything helpful on the Emibas CD or on the 1890 Swedish Census CD. I do see a possibility in the 1880 Swedish Census.
 
http://www.svar.ra.se (subscription site)
 
Homeparish:    Calmar domkyrko
Residence:    Malmen
County:    Kalmar
Page:    162  
Row:    30  
 
Fam. nr 1
Carl August Lindström, b. 1835 in Kalmar Kalmar län, Sjökapten = sea captain
Christina Nilsdotter, b. 1837 in Hälleberga Kalmar län
Carl, b. 1864 in Kalmar Kalmar län
Oscar, b. 1867 in Kalmar Kalmar län
Alfred, b. 1869 in Kalmar Kalmar län
Sofia, b. 1870 in Oskarshamn Kalmar län
Edvard, b. 1873 in Kalmar Kalmar län
 
I don't know if he is yours, however.
 
If he later lived in Jamestown, New York, you are lucky since that is an easy place in which to do research. I have a branch of my family who lived there and I found it easier to research those people than any of my others.
 
Judy

[Anna-Carin Betzén]

Lori,  
The Swedish censuses are extracted from the household examination rolls (husförhörslängd, HFL), so the parish, page, and row info Judy gave above refers to the parish's HFL covering the years around 1880. Following him forward in time in the the HFLs, you'll soon see if he turns out to emigrate around the right time or not. (FYI, the Emibas database I mentioned contains emigration information extracted from parish records.)
 
However, the home parish stated in the record, Kalmar domkyrkoförsamling, has changed names over time - Genline calles it just that, while at AD Cnline you should look for Kalmar stadsförsamling instead. If you run into questions concerning that specific parish, you may want to post (in English, of course) in the parish's thread in the Swedish section; Kalmar stadsförsamling. (The Swedish section is arranged by province rather than county; Kalmar is in Småland province.)

[Bo Nordenfors]

This C A Lindström b. 1835 in Kalmar signed off from the ship ”Nicolina” in the port of Härnösand on 28 September 1891 so he had time enough to go to Copenhagen, I think.
Source:  Härnösands sjömanhus volume DIa:20 (via www.svar.ra.se   - subscription)

[Bo Nordenfors]

Census 1890 Sweden has him listed as was he born 1838, whereas Census 1900 has 1835. As he is in Sweden 1900 this is perhaps not your man? Or, as it's also states his wife is in America - what do you think?
 
 
 
1890:
Post 1334880
 
Lindström, Karl August
Sjökapten= captain
 
f. 1838 i Kalmar stadsförs (Kalmar län, Småland)
 
Gift man, far i familjen   married man, father
 
Ängö N:o 54
Kalmar stadsförs (Kalmar län, Småland)
 
Födelseort i källan: Kalmar Stads
 
wife:
 
Post 1334881
 
Nilsdtr., Kristina Maria
 
f. 1837 i Hälleberga (Kronobergs län, Småland)
 
h.
Gift kvinna, mor i familjen
 
Ängö N:o 54
Kalmar stadsförs (Kalmar län, Småland)
 
Födelseort i källan: Helleberga
 
son:  
Post 1334882
 
Edvard August
 
f. 1873 i Kalmar stadsförs (Kalmar län, Småland)
 
s.
Ogift man, barn i familjen
 
Ängö N:o 54
Kalmar stadsförs (Kalmar län, Småland)
 
Födelseort i källan: Kalmar Stads
 
 
=========================================
 
1900:
 
Record 4934052
 
Lindström, Karl August
Sjökapten
 
b. 1835 in Kalmar stadsförs (Kalmar län, Småland)
 
Man, married
 
Ängö Skeppsvarvet N:o 54
Kalmar stadsförs (Kalmar län, Småland)
 
hustrun i Amerika= wife in America.
 
Place of birth (original source): Kalmar stad Kalmar län

[Bo Nordenfors]

A quick look into clerical surveys of Kalmar told me no index existing and thus Ängö 54 hard to find in reasonable time,esp. if you are not familiar with the local geography and/or the church records for Kalmar.
 
There is a Karl August born in Kalmar stadsförsamling (city parish) on 8 September 1835 to Jonas Peter Lindström, sailor, and Sophia Ljungström.   source:  Kalmar Stadsförsamling C:9
Hopefully someone researching in Kalmar can help.

[Bo Nordenfors]

EMIBAS listing Mr Lindström's wife and son emigrating in 1891
 
 
Post 324568
 
Nilsdotter, Kristina Maria
Hustru=wife (married woman)
 
b. 11/12/1837 in Hälleberga, Kalmar län (Småland)
 
Emigrated 9/10/1891
from 54 Ängö, Kalmar stadsförs, Kalmar län (Småland)
to Amerika
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 155
 
Emibas migration file ID: Kalmar stadsförs H 1891 132
 
Post 324567
 
Lindström, Edvard August
Barn=child (unmarried man)
 
b. 12/17/1873 in Kalmar, Kalmar län (Småland)
 
Emigrated 9/10/1891
from 54 Ängö, Kalmar stadsförs, Kalmar län (Småland)
to Amerika
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 155
 
Emibas migration file ID: Kalmar stadsförs H 1891 133