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Författare Ämne: Translation, Please!!  (läst 1175 gånger)

2002-11-20, 02:30
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Ron Holmquist

Hi folks!
 
Would someone, please, translate the following into English.
 
Thanks!!
Mvh
Ron
 
 
Hej Niclas! Ingrid har forskat,jag summerar vad vi vet om två grenar Trolle. 1. Ryttmästare Johan Håkansson Trolle, Ryds kronorusthåll i Sandsjö sn. G m Margareta Nilsdotter. Deras barn:Håkan Trolle,kvartermästare,död i Polen,barnlös,modern fick bakarv.-Nils Johansson Trolle med sönerna Petter och Johan i Aggarp,Björkö-Jakob Johansson Trolle,Ryd. Hustru Margaretas barn i ett tidigare gifte:Margareta Persdotter,Ryd (ärvde modern)och Knut Persson,Sålleryd. Huvudsakliga källor är Östra Härads dombok VT 1738 ?71 och 72. Har kopia  
Kan skicka om du vill läsa själv.  
 
2. Harald Sonesson Trolle,som du har mer uppgifter om. I Västra härads dombok 1706 finns uppgifter om cornettskan Elin Haraldsdotter Trolle f 164(9)d 1709,Näs, Bringetofta g m kornetten Per Nilsson Hjort. Där uppges att hon, när hon sålde gården till sin son Göte Götesson, förbehöll sig ett undantag. Detta ifrågasattes vid en senare försäljning men rätten avvisade och hon satt okvald kvar. Sonens namn indikerar att hon varit gift tidigare med en man vid namn Göte.  
 
Elin hade också en dotter Sara i äktenskapet med Per Nilssson,samma förnamn som hennes syster Sara Haraldsdotter, g m sergianten Knut Knutsson.

2002-11-20, 13:01
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Hi Ron,
Here is a translation:
 
Hi Niclas! Ingrid has done the research and I have made a summary of the information we have.
1. Cavalry Captain Johan Håkansson Trolle, Ryds kronorusthåll (a term used in the Allottment System for the part of that system that organized the Cavalry) in Sandsjö parish. Married to Margareta Nilsdotter.
Their children:  
- Håkan Trolle, Quartermaster, dead in Poland, no children. The mother got bakarv??
- Nils Johansson Trolle, He had the sons' Petter and Johan in Aggarp, Björkö.
- Jakob Johansson Trolle, Ryd (inherited the mother)
 
His wife Margareta's children in an earlier marriage:
- Margareta Persdotter,Ryd (inherited the mother)
- Knut Persson, Sålleryd
Main source of information: Östra Härads dombok VT 1738 §71 och 72. I have a copy of the source and if you would like me to send you a copy of it, just let me know.
 
2. Harald Sonesson Trolle, as you already have information on. There is information in the Västra härads dombok (dombok is a register in a court of law) of 1706 on cornettskan Elin Haraldsdotter Trolle, born 164(9), dead 1709, Näs, Bringetofta. (Cornett was a rank in the Cavalry corresponding to a Second Lieutenant in the Army. Cornettskan = the wife of a Cornett).
Elin was married to the Cornett Per Nilsson Hjort. There is information in the dombok stating that she sold the farm to her son Göte Götesson. However the sale had an exception (she could remain on the farm even after the sale).  
This was questioned at a later sale of the farm, however a court of law dismissed the objection of the exception and she could remain on the farm.  
The surname of the son indicates that she earlier had been married to a man with the first name of Göte.
Elin also had a daughter called Sara in a marriage to Per Nilssson. Elin had a sister with the same first name as her daughter Sara. The sister was married to the sergeant Knut Knutsson.
 
Hans

2002-11-20, 13:43
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Translation:
Hi Niclas! Ingrid have done the research,I vill compromice what we know abaout two lines of the Trolle family. 1.Ryttmästare(military title aproximatily cavalry captain)Johan Håkansson Trolle, Ryds kronorusthåll(the royalfarm of military asignment that comes with the military service) in Sandsjö sn(parish)married to Margareta Nilsdotter. The children :Håkan Trolle, petty officer,died in Polen,no children,the mother inherreted.-Nils Johansson Trolle his sons Petter and Johan in Aggarp,Björkö-Jakob Johansson Trolle,in Ryd. Wife Margaretas children from an earlier marriage:Margareta Persdotter,Ryd (inherreted her mother)and Knut Persson,Sålleryd. Main sources are Östra Härads dombok VT 1738 ?71 och 72.(East judgemental districts bok) Have a copy, can send if you want to read by your self.
 
2. Harald Sonesson Trolle,that you have more about. In Västra härads dombok 1706(West judgemental districts bok) are information about cornettskan(wife of cornet) Elin Haraldsdotter Trolle bourn 164(9)d 1709,Näs, Bringetofta married to cornet Per Nilsson Hjort. It says she sold the farm to her son Göte Götesson, but set aside an except(form of pension from old time). It was questioned at a later sale but the court turned aside it and she kept the except. Name of the son indicate that she was married earlier with a man named Göte.
 
Elin did also have a dougther named Sara in the marriage with Per Nilsson, same name as her sister Sara Haraldsdotter, married to Seargant Knut Knutsson
 
This is approxemately translated since there are some words that are very old fashioned in Swedish. I hope I did not missspel to much.
Lena-Maria

2002-11-20, 15:06
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Eva Cumner

Hi Hans and Ron,
 
Bakarv is when parents inherit from their dead children, according to Henrik Anderö's dictionary for geneaologists. (Ordbok för släktforskare)
 
Regards, Eva

2002-11-20, 17:12
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Ron Holmquist

Hi folks!!
 
Many thanks to Hans Högman (Hasseh), Lena-Maria Jansson and Eva Cumner for their expert translation of my query!! Your help is greatly appreciated!!
 
Mvh
Ron

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