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[Gerd Jakobson]

Vill säga tack till Marianne Karlsson som pekade ut S:t Olofshemmet till mig. Trevligt att du ville svara, trots att jag har googlat.
Gerd

[Anna-Lena Christensen]

Hej,
 
Jag har nu följt mina släktingar framåt i tiden men nu fastnade jag igen. Kan någon hjälpa mig och tyda vart Samuel Johansson flyttade med sin familj på Halmstad AIIa:16 (1905-1917) Bild 360/ Sid 628. De står nästan längst ner på sidan, de flyttar 1909-11-22.
 
/Anna-Lena

[Maud Svensson]

Familjen förs 22/11 1809 till sid 24 i boken över å församlingen skrifne - se Halmstad AIIa:23 (1905-1919) sid 24.
Där framgår att mannen och sonen dog 1911 resp 1912 och att änkan 1915 fördes till sid 1374 - se Halmstad AIIa:18 (1905-1917) sid 1374, längst ned.
 
(Meddelandet ändrat av mausve 2015-02-18 20:51)

[Anna-Lena Christensen]

Tack Maud.
 
Nu kommer jag vidare, väldigt tacksam för all hjälp här på anbytarforum.
 
/Anna-Lena

[Anna-Lena Christensen]

Hej,
 
Min farmors föräldrar bodde i de gamla arbetarbostäderna nere vid Slottsmöllan vid Nissan mellan 1913-1950. Jag undrar om någon vet om det finns foto på dessa hus eller var man kan leta för att eventuellt hitta dem. Min pappa har tyvärr inga foto därifrån men han kommer ihåg dessa hus eftersom han var sju år när de flyttade därifrån och det hade varit så kul att se dem igen.
 
/Anna-Lena

[Göran Svensson]

Hej Anna-Lena!
 
Ta kontakt med föreningen Gamla Halmstad. De har många gamla foton.
 
www.gamlahalmstad.se
 
Mvh
Göran

[Valery Smyslov]

Hello,
 
I'm looking for information about my grand-grandfather. His name was Severin Carlsson (or Karlsson, I'm not sure about the spelling). He was from Halmstad. He was born 4 june 1869. The name of his father must be Carl (or Karl). In the end of 1880th Severin left Sweden and settled in Kamchatka, Russia, where he spent the rest of his life.
 
Could somebody, please, give me advise where I can find more information about Severin and his family.
 
Thanks,
Valery.

[Mats Olander]

Hello Valery!
I´m not shure this is your Severrin:
Severin Carlsson, born 1868-05-03 in Övraby, near Halmstad.
He emigrated from Snöstorp parish to Kamtyatkha 10/12 1897.
The name is right, birthdate about one year to early and date to Kamtyathka 10 years to late!
/Mats

[Valery Smyslov]

Hi Mats,
 
thanks for the information. I'm also not sure that this is my Severin. I admit that the birthday may be not precise (I don't have any documents to confirm it). However it is known that my Severin has already married in Kamchatka on a local girl in 1894 (there is a document). So either this is not my Severin or the date of the emigration is wrong. Anyway, many thanks for your help.  
 
Valery.

[John Bentley]

Hi  
I think there are factors that make him likely to be your great grandfather, and would make me look to explain the differences. Firstly Severin is not such a common name. Secondly, Övraby is often considered as linked with Halmstad in records. Thirdly the date is different but quite close. And where in all the records that exist are you likely to find another Severin Karlsson from a border parish to Halmstad who emigrated to the very town in Russia where your grandfather lived?  
 
Some comments. 99% of Swedes who emigrated went to USA, emigration to Russia is pretty unusual.  
My great great grandfather emigrated to USA and then visited Sweden when his wife died some years later. The records hence show him emigrating twice from Sweden, so two dates are found for when he went to USA.  
Note Carl and Karl, Carlsson and Karlsson are alternative spellings that can be found for the same person.  
 
I hope this encourages you. I myself have only found a Severin Ernfrid born in Halmstad 1865, but no other Severin close to the date.  
 
John
 
(Meddelandet ändrat av Johnb 2015-03-07 10:13)

[Valery Smyslov]

Hi John,
 
is the name Severin really rare in Sweden? If so, then you are probably right. The date of emigration may be incorrect because it wasn't an official emigration. He was a sailor and when his ship visited Kamchatka he just left there. The exact reason is unknown. There is a family tale that he had a dispute with a captain: the captain sold denatured alcohol to locals and Severin opposed to that.
As the emigration wasn't official (at least initially), there may be any inconsistences in the emigration records.
 
There is also a small possibility that he wasn't from Halmstad. It is only known from Sten Bergman's book Through Kamchatka by Dog-sled & Skis (http://books.google.ru/books/about/P%C3%A5_Hundsl%C3%A4de_Genom_Kamtchatka_Throu gh.html?id=aEQOMwEACAAJ&redir_esc=y). Sten met with Severin in 1922 and described his fate in this book. And it is written there that Severin was from Halmstad.
 
Anyway, where can I find more information about that Severin and his family?
 
Many thanks for your help,
Valery.

[John Bentley]

Hi
 
It is good when you can be certain you have found a missing relative, and difficult when you are not sure.  You can only gather evidence and keep checking facts to decide how sure you are.
 
I have a large family history database, and there I have entries for (selected common names) Anders 1492, Nils 1366, Bengt 1197, Per 961, Sven 937 ............. and Severin 64.  So not at all a common name.
 
Severin was born to Carl Svensson born 1834-04-24 and Benedikta Persdotter born 1833-11-24 at Sperlingsholm, a castle and estate only a few kilometers outside Halmstad.  The parents were married 1865-11-16 in Övraby and the family are in Övraby household register AI:5 1861-1870 page 49. There is a sister Sofia and a brother Johan recorded. Carl was a statdräng, a labourer of the poorest type and paid in kind.  I cannot read the birth places of the parents, since they are faint and places unfamiliar to me.
 
It would be kind if someone else could read the birth places for you.
 
I will post again if I find more.
 
Regards  John

[Valery Smyslov]

Hi John,
 
thank you very much. I have two questions. You say that Severin's farther was Carl Svensson. I'm not familiar with swedish naming system, but I think that there must be family names, that persists from parents to children. So - why Svensson, not Carlsson? It seems that it is not a family name, but just an indication of his father's name (Sven?), doesn't it?  
 
And the second question. Are the names of Severin's cousins available? I know that he has at least one cousin and I seem to know his name (not for sure), so that could be an additional check.
 
Thank you for your help,
Valery.

[John Bentley]

Hi
 
Simply, up until 1900.  Male children had a given name (Severin) and a surname indicating who their father was (Carlsson, son of Carl).  Female children had a given name (Benedikta) and again a surname indicating their fathers name (Persdotter, daughter of Per).  Married women did not change their surnames on marriage.  Only clergy and certain craftsmen had family names. My Swedish relatives were the only ones in the village other than an estate manager to have a family name since the first with that name was a strandridare, a Government appointed Customs official.  See http://www.algonet.se/~hogman/Naming%20practice_eng.htm  
 
It would take more searching to find cousins, but sister Sofia was born 1866-8-16 and brother Johan 1870-10-19.  
 
I will see if I can trace the parents back through the registers of moving permits (in/utflyttning).  
 
John

[Marianne Karlsson]

Mats? emigrated from Snöstorp parish 10/12 1897?
That I can´t find in Snöstorp record. Where have you seen it?
John: The father is born in Harplinge, the mother in Enslöf.
Sailor, isn´t there special records for them where you can see if that particular Severin worked at sea.
Marianne

[John Bentley]

Hej!  
 
I have had contact with Mats and the note is at the very end of Snöstorp hfl, not the utflyttningslängd. The family were at Snöstorp Nr.7. But were before in Harplinge and Kvibille.  They moved around.
 
There is full information about the mothers ancestry on Disbyt. The father was born 1837 in Harplinge not 1834 and is in my own Swedish ancestry.  
 
John

[Carl Wolf]

Hi Valery, in 1884 Severin moved from Snöstorp to Enslöv {source: Enslöv AI:12 (1881-1898) Image 154/Page 154), where he is listed as Sjöf.[arare] or seafarer.  In 1885 he moves back to his family in Snöstorp (source: Snöstorp AI:7 (1881-1885) Image 243/Page 253) where he is listed as sjöman or seaman.  In 1896 as John Bentley stated, he is moved from Snöstorp #7 to Särskilde Förteckningen (source: Snöstorp AI:9 (1891-1899) Image 467/Page 528), which means that the parish priest knew that he was no longer living with his family but did not know where he was living.  Eventually the priest learned in 1897 that he had moved to Kamchatka.  There was a similar situation for my grandfather.  Like your ancestor, my grandfather never told the parish priest that he was going to emigrate so he is listed with his family in the registers ending in 1900 even though he was already in the United States and married to my grandmother.

[Valery Smyslov]

Hi Carl,
 
thank you very much for your research. It is very persuading and I'm becoming more and more confident that this is my great grandfather.
 
Valery.

[Marianne Elfström]

Hej!
 
Före detta tullförvaltaren i Halmstad Herr N: Aschling sökte tjänst som organist i Varberg (N) 1801 enligt sockenprotokoll - med ganska fullständige betyg, om pröfwad skickelighet. Han fick tydligen inte jobbet.
 
1803 var det dags igen enligt sockenprotokoll från Vinberg (N) - förtroende föllo på Herr Tullförvaltarn Askling, som är känd för grundelig insickt i musiquen, ock kan med färdighet tractera orgel. Denna gång gällde det en tjänst i Stafsinge kyrka (N).
 
Jag har letat igenom ett antal mantalslängder för Halmstad utan att hitta honom. Jag skulle vilja veta när och var han var född, om han hade familj etc. Någon som känner till denne man?
 
Mvh
Marianne
 
 
(Meddelandet ändrat av Marianne 2015-03-09 16:25)

[Calle Lindström]

Hejsan Marianne, Aschling finns nämnd i Gamla Halmstads Årsbok 1962.Fast här med förnamnet Emanuel. Rätt lång notering där han anges född omkr, 1735, trivialskola i Eksjö, gymnasie i Linköping med musikutbildning. Arbete ett antal år som regementskapellmästare i Ryssland. Åter i Sverige, utsedd av Gustav III till tullförvaltare i Halmstad 1774. Avsked 1783.
Anges enligt uppgift i Inrikes tidningar död i Falkenberg 24/5 1804, uppgiften återfinns inte i Falkenbergs kyrkobok, enligt noteringen. Försök att fjärrlåna boken via ditt bibliotek. Ett spännande liv, speciellt äventyrligt i Ryssland.
Enligt noteringen gift och en dotter vid namn Fredrika Charlotta.
 
Vänligen,
Calle
 
(Meddelandet ändrat av callel 2015-03-08 20:35)

[Marianne Elfström]

Tusen tack för detta Calle - intressant!  
 
Jag letar sedan många år efter ursprunget till min ana garvaren Anders Askling, född ca 1760,  
som dök upp i Kungsbacka på 1780-talet. Försöker undersöka alla halmstrån.
 
Mvh
Marianne

[Anna-Lena Christensen]

Hej,
 
Jag har hittat att flera i min släkt har bott vid något som benämns Kolonihusen. Är det någon som vet var detta ligger/låg. De var sjömän allihop.
 
/Anna-Lena

[John Bentley]

Hej !
 
Från Hallands befolkning cd vigslar följande hemort för man och kvinna finns.
 
1924 Lindgren, Johan Gustaf William sjöman, 1896-11-12 V. Kolonihusen
Eliasson, Elsa Ingeborg Charlotta tjänarinna, 1903-08-25 V. Kolonihusen
i normerade begrepp  Västra förstaden Kolonihusen
 
1933 Bengtsson, Ivar Reinhold chaufför, 1908-01-31 R 37 A
Lindgren, Gunborg Sinejda 1906-11-25 S 37 Kolonihusen A
i normerade begrepp  Södra förstaden Nr 37 Kolonihusen A  
 
I 1936 ser vi Södra Förstaden Koloniföreningen Myran, det samma ?
 
Också i 1936  Västra förstaden Kolonistugorna.
 
Så det finns sjömän i 1924 i Västra förstaden Kolonihusen.  Vad var namnet ?
 
Du kanske skulle ta kontakt med Gamla Halmstad, www.gamlahalmstad.se. Jag är ganska säkert att de hjälper dig.
 
John
 
(Meddelandet ändrat av Johnb 2015-03-15 18:01)

[Anna-Lena Christensen]

Hej John,
 
Tack för informationen. Denna Johan Gustaf Lindgren är just en av de jag hittat i min släkt. Jag har för mig att även hans bror Per Erik bodde i Kolonihusen, men jag har inte noterat detta ser jag. Däremot så är Gunborg Sinejda Lindgren hans hustrus oäkta barn.
 
Jag har inte Hallands befolkning cd men den borde jag kanske skaffa. Är texten på skivan sökbar?  
 
/Anna-Lena

[Orvar Asplund]

Hej, en undran. Vad betyder nr 109 D som står på sid 1595 i Halmstad AIIa:5? Är det benämning på kvarter?
Mvh
Orvar

[Maud Svensson]

Det är fastighetsbeteckningen (Norra förstaden, Vattugatan 20) - se fastighetslängden där Vinge är antecknad:  
Halmstad AIIc:2 (1905-1911) Bild 520 / sid 682 (AID: v337682.b520.s682)

[Orvar Asplund]

Tack Maud

[Orvar Asplund]

Hej
Kan någon förklara vad V60B betyder , se Hamstad B1:II sid 294 nr 17 Winge Gerd
Mvh
Orvar

[Bo Nordenfors]

Hon finns i vilket fall som helst på   Halmstad AIIa:32 (1917-1941) Bild 1160 / sid 2512 (AID: v337629.b1160.s2512, NAD: SE/LLA/13138).
2512 stod ju som sidnr i inflyttningslängden. Som ovan vid fastighetsnumrering i Halmstad får jag lämna detta åt någon med lokalkännedom.

[Orvar Asplund]

Tack Bo
Jag har hittat Gerd i församlingsboken, det är fastighetsbeteckning jag funderar över. Hoppas någon annan har en förklaring
Orvar