Search for Nils Olson

[Hiel Lindquist]

Hello again,
First, thank you for all the previous assistance.  I thought I had completed my family search, but today I found an obituary for my grandmother, Hilda Nelson (Hilda Nilsdotter, b. 18 Jan 1879 in Hjärså, Kristianstad, Sweden, d. 01 Mar 1934 in New Hampshire, USA).  Hilda's parents were Kersti Jönsdotter b. 13 Apr 1837 in Hjärså and Nils Nilsson b. 12 Nov 1837 in Knislinge.  
 
The Obituary mentioned a brother living in Rutland, Vermont.  The brother's names was Nils Olson.  The brother in Vermont would explain why my grandmother Hilda immigrated to Vermont when she left Sweden 19 Apr 1898.  I searched the USA Census and there is only 1 Nils Olson in Rutland, Vermont within the date range (name - Nils W. Olson).  His birth date is abt Sep 1862 and he immigrated to the USA abt 1886.  He died in Vermont 27 Mar 1941 and his death record indicates his father's name was also Nils Olson and his mother's name was Christina Johnson (I believe this would be Kersti Jönsdotter ?).  
 
He married in Vermont 4 Jul 1889 Amanda ? b. abt Jan 1867 who had immigrated to USA abt 1889.
 
If the census information for the Nils Olson here in the USA is correct, then Kersti Jönsdotter's marriage to Nils Nilsson was her second marriage and her first husband was Nils Olson, married some time before 1875.  I would like to know if this is correct, and any other information about her prior family.  I know the parish records were destroyed in a fire, so this may not be possible.
 
Also, I would like to know any immigration information for Nils as it should show that he came from the Hjärså area.
 
Thank you in advance for any help.
 
Regards
 
Hiel Lindquist

[Bo Johansson]

The family looks like this in Swedish Census 1880:
 
Nilsson, Nils
Backstugusittare [cottager]
b. 1837 in Knislinge (Kristianstads län, Skåne)
Man, married, father
 
Jönsdotter, Kerstin
b. 1837 in Hjärsås (Kristianstads län, Skåne)
h. [wife]
Woman, married, mother
 
Olsson, Nils
b. 1862 in Hjärsås (Kristianstads län, Skåne)
oä. s. [illeg. son]
Man, single, child
 
Sven
b. 1876 in Hjärsås (Kristianstads län, Skåne)
s.
Boy, child
 
Hilda
b. 1879 in Hjärsås (Kristianstads län, Skåne)
d.
Girl, child
 
Hjersås N:o 5
Hjärsås (Kristianstads län, Skåne)
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The family is found at Hjärsås number 5 in GID 1661.10.45300, [Kristianstad] Hjärsås,  AI.3, Household examination, 1876-1885, page 61, Image 63:
 
- cottager Nils Nilsson, born 1837-11-12 Knislinge, married 1875-10-24.
- wife Kerstin Jönsdotter, born 1837-09-13 Hjärsås, married 1875-10-24.
- her illeg. s. Nils Olsson, born 1862-09-15 Hjärsås, baptised 1878, moved 1882 to Knislinge.
- s. Sven (not baptised), born 1876-08-14 Hjärsås.
 -d. Hilda (not baptised), born 1879-01-18 hjärsås.
 
Nils' birth is recorded 15 Sep 1862, no father mentioned, mother maid Kjerstin Jönsdotter at Hjärsås number 5, in Hjärsås births in GID 100011.18.55700, [Kristianstad] _SCB Kristianstad, Births, 1862, Image 173.
 
They are found with her parents at Hjärsås number 5 in GID 1661.12.62800,  [Kristianstad] Hjärsås, AI.1, Household examination, 1861-1868, page 51, Image 56.
 
- cottager Jöns Carlsson, born 1808-11-17 Hjärsås, married 1830.
- wife Anna Larsdotter, born 1797-11-10 Onslunda, married 1830, died 1869-02-16.
 
No mention of Nils' father here either.
 
Below Kjerstin are 3 more children, an un-baptised boy born 1859-11-08, and un-baptised girls born 1861-09-22 and 1863-03-01. These have remarks that the parents have refused to have them baptised.
 
But these 3 extra children are connected with the family at the bottom of the page, not with Kjerstin Jönsdotter.
 
In the next HFL Kjerstin Jönsdotter with her father and illegitimate son Nils are recorded at Hjärsås number 5, she marries Nils Nilsson 1875-10-29 and has an un-baptised son Sven 1876-08-14, and her father dies 1871-04-06.
 
// Bo Johansson

[Bo Johansson]

P.S: In the 1869-1876 HFL there is a remark about Nils born 1862: ej valt angifva barnet's far(?) (not chosen to state the child's father(?)).
 
Ther are also a remarks about Jöns Carlsson and Kjerstin Jönsdotter that they are baptists.
 
GID 1661.9.16600, [Kristianstad] Hjärsås, AI.2, Household examination, 1869-1876, page 53, Image 56, address Hjärsås number 5.
 
 
P.P.S. Since the son Nils was recorded as Nils Olsson in the 1876-1885 HFL, one would suspect his father's name to be Olof or Ola.
 
// Bo Johansson

[Hiel Lindquist]

Thank you, BO, for all the great information on Nils Olson. I had not seen the 1876-1885 record, only the final record before my grandmother Hilda leaves for USA. I had missed Nils Olson, so it shows how important it is to check each available record.  
 
Now I have some more searching to do for some relatives over here in Vermont.  
 
Was there any record for Nils Olson on EMIBAS or on other immigration databases?  
 
Thanks  
 
Hiel Lindquist

[Hiel Lindquist]

Hello,
 
In continuation of my search for Nils Olson, born 1862-09-15 in Hjärsås.  I found an image of the actual copy of his marriage record in Vermont, USA, to Amanda Oleson.  On the record, entered incorrectly in the place of the birth location for his father, is entered Olla Oleson.  His mother's name is listed as Christina Johnson, which of course in Sweden is Kjerstin Jönsdotter.  
 
As Bo Johansson found earlier that Nils' birth record of 15 Sep 1862 mentions no father, it is possible that his father's name was Olla Oleson, or some variation.  Is there a name such as this in the Hjärsås church records in the 1862 time period?  
 
Also, is there a listing in the emmigration records for Nils Olson?  He came to the USA around 1886, probably Vermont.
 
Thank you for any help you can provide.
 
Regards
 
Hiel Lindquist

[Judy Olson Baouab]

Emibas CD:
 
Post 399280
 
Olsson, Nils
Arbetare = worker. (unmarried man)
 
b. 9/15/1862 in Hjärsås, Kristianstads län (Skåne)
 
Emigrated 1/28/1886
from Färeköp, Glimåkra, Kristianstads län (Skåne)
to Amerika
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 321
 
Emibas migration file ID: Glimåkra L 1886 003
 
Judy

[Bo Johansson]

Ola Olsson (or Olof Olofsson, Olof Olsson, etc.) is a common name in 19th century Sweden.
 
Swedish Census 1880 has only one male Ol* Ol* living in Hjärsås, and born before 1845.
 
Olsson, Ola 1830 Father
Tufvesdotter, Malena 1842 Mother
(Barn), Thilda 1869 Child
(Barn), Hanna 1871 Child
 
Olsson, Ola
Hemmansägare [farm owner]
b. 1830 in Hjärsås (Kristianstads län, Skåne)
Man, married, father
 
Värestorp
Hjärsås (Kristianstads län, Skåne)
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And this one born in Hjärsås, but living in Knislinge 1880:
 
Olsson, Ola
Arbetskarl [worker]
b. 1829 in Hjärsås (Kristianstads län, Skåne)
Man, single
 
Kopparöd
Knislinge (Kristianstads län, Skåne)
-----------------------------------
 
But there could have been more Ol* Ol* living in Hjärsås or nearby in 1862.
 
// Bo Johansson
 
(Meddelandet ändrat av bojoha 2011-06-18 21:24)

[Hiel Lindquist]

Thank you Bo and Judy for your help.
 
I continue to work on other branches of my family and occasionally come up with some more clues like the last one about Ola Olsson. I guess I will never be sure of the father for Nils Olsson.
 
I did find that the name of the woman that Nils married over here in the USA was Amanda Olsson, so it is possible that there is more than 1 error on the marriage record entry in Vermont where they were married.  She was born in Sweden in 1867, father's name Olla Olsson and mother's name Bell(or Beel?) Hawkins.  I do not know the perish where she came from in Sweden and her mother's name is suspect as it doesn't appear to be of Swedish origin.  Amanda came to the USA in 1889.  Is it possible to seach for an Amanda Olsdotter, emigrating to the USA in 1889 on the EMIBAS data base?  
 
regards
 
Hiel Lindquist

[Bo Johansson]

Perhaps the mother's name was Boel or Bolla Håkansdotter.
 
Or Botilda, or Beata, or something...
 
// Bo Johansson

[Arne Granquist]

Hiel
swedish census 1880
 
 
 
Om personen  
Namn:  Amanda  
Hemförsamling:  Emitslöfs annex  
Hemort:  Feleberga  
Kontrakt:  Östra Göinge  
Län:  Kristianstad  
Födelseår:  1867  
Födelseförsamling:  Glemminge Malmöhus län  
Civilstånd:  Ogift (O)  
Kön:  Kvinna  
Familjeställning:  hennes oä. d.  
Famstkod:  Barn (B)  
Familj nr:  1  
Sida:  16    
Rad:  3    
Visa källa  Visa källa  
 
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 Om hushållet
 
Personer i hushållet:  
Fam. nr 1
 
Ola Håkansson, f. 1831 i Örkened Kristianstads län, Backstugusittare  
Bengta Bengtsdotter, f. 1846 i Glemminge Malmöhus län  
Amanda, f. 1867 i Glemminge Malmöhus län  
Bengta, f. 1869 i Hjärsås Kristianstads län  
Swen, f. 1872 i Emmislöv Kristianstads län  
Hanna, f. 1875 i Emmislöv Kristianstads län  
 
 
 
EMIBAS
Post 393798
 
Olsdotter, Amanda
Piga (unmarried woman)
 
b. 1/17/1867 in Glimåkra, Kristianstads län (Skåne)
 
Emigrated 3/4/1889
from Vestraby 3, Emmislöv, Kristianstads län (Skåne)
to Amerika
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 12
 
Emibas migration file ID: Emmislöv L 1889 004  
 
Statistiska Centralbyrån (SCB) - samlingspost, Utdrag ur födelse-, vigsel- och dödböcker 1860-1949, SE/RA/420401/01/H 1 AA/252 (1867), bildid: A0035751_00203
Confirms the birth in Glimåkra

[Hiel Lindquist]

Thank you for the information.  That certainly looks like Amanda.
 
She is not a direct relative of mine, but if I can track down my cousins in Connecticut, the information you found will certain be of interest to them.  Amanda and Nils had a son, Julius, and he had 2 daughters, Doris Olson, b. abt 1918 and a Vernon Olson b. abt 1923, in Naugatuck, New Haven, Connecticut, USA.  I find them in the 1930 USA census but can find no information after that.  Maybe I will have to travel to New Haven and go through the original records.
 
Thanks again.
 
Hiel Lindquist
 
PS:  Thank you, also, to everyone on this forum.  I certainly enjoy reading about the ongoing genealogy search of other people and continue to learn about new information sources and Swedish history from this forum.

[Bo Johansson]

Did you notice Amanda's status in 1880 hennes oä. d., that is she was the wife's illegitimate daughter.
 
// Bo Johansson

[Hiel Lindquist]

Yes, but I believe the the note in the birth of Hanna born 1875-05-21 in Emmislöv parish indicate that Ola Håkansson is the father of 4 and married 5 years?  It is possible that Amanda was his child, born before Ola and Bengt were married.